Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-14 Thread Craig L Russell
Now I'm confused. Could someone put some alias names to these concepts? I thought we were talking about -dev and - user. What aliases are others referring to? Thanks, Craig On May 14, 2007, at 1:19 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 5/14/07, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yoav S

Re: Demote TSIK to dormant

2007-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I already did this a while back... http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html where else do i have to do it? thanks, dims On 5/14/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, Let's please mark it as dormant. Feel free to do the deed. --- Noel -- Davanum Srinivas ::

RE: Yoko Incubator Report?

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Darren Middleman wrote: > Sorry about the incubator report, I didn't realize it was that time already. > I'll get this together and post it to the Wiki tomorrow (Tuesday). That will be too late. Please submit it for next month. Don't plan on any releases until after the report has been filed.

Incubator May 2007 Board Report

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
We are revising the web site documentation to help better describe the processes, policies and procedures. No substantive policy changes, just improved clarity. All in all, things seem to be going fairly well. Nothing major on a general level to report during the short interval between the April

RE: Demote TSIK to dormant

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Yes, Let's please mark it as dormant. Feel free to do the deed. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

2007-05-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
If I am not mistaken there is no relationship with the sponsoring PMC, which in my view needs to change (as you indirectly point out). There are a couple of things : 1) The incubated project doesn't even need to know about the sponsoring project 2) The sponsoring project doesn't even have to kno

Re: making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

2007-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Maven PMC is sponsoring, so i feel this is the right thing to do as well. -- dims On 5/14/07, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Quick question (I hope). I was thinking about what will happen if the NMaven podling would like to add a committer, make a release, etc. Would votes by Mav

making project decisions with a small number of PMC members

2007-05-14 Thread Brett Porter
Hi, Quick question (I hope). I was thinking about what will happen if the NMaven podling would like to add a committer, make a release, etc. Would votes by Maven PMC members (As the sponsoring project) be considered binding in this case, or should we have IPMC members? We currently only have 2

Re: Woden Board Report

2007-05-14 Thread Lawrence Mandel
I was about to post the Woden report but John beat me to it. The report is now up. Lawrence "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/14/2007 07:34 AM Please respond to general@incubator.apache.org To , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc Subject Woden Board Report Where is

Re: [Vote] Ratify the release of Apache Tuscany SDO 1.0-incubating-beta1

2007-05-14 Thread Niall Pemberton
Ant refers to the need to "clarify the use of the OSOA licensed code" in the following message: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg17270.html: Not sure whats meant exactly by clarify - but sounds to me like something that should be done before a release? One minor nitpick with th

Re: [Vote] Ratify the release of Apache Tuscany SDO 1.0-incubating-beta1

2007-05-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/14/07, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Incubator PMC folks, Can at least 1 or more of you (other than Paul and me!) take a look at this release? It's been pending since May 2nd. +1 remember to add release notes to the website and post good announcement messages - robert

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/14/07, Thilo Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/14/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "The community mailing list is open to all Apache committers. This is >> the right list for >> questions about community and on community building. Subscripti

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/14/07, Martin Sebor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/14/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "The community mailing list is open to all Apache committers. This is >> the right list for >> questions about community and on community building. Subscript

Re: [discuss] graduation: what is the 'hand over'?

2007-05-14 Thread Leo Simons
On May 8, 2007, at 11:57 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: i've written this up into the graduation document. unless leo has any objections, i'll commit it. You're kidding right? :-) Thanks for doing the hard work Robert! - Leo, who is reminded of the need to write up that proposal for RAT...

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-14 Thread Thilo Goetz
Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/14/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "The community mailing list is open to all Apache committers. This is >> the right list for >> questions about community and on community building. Subscriptions >> should be from an Apache email address." >> >

Re: [Vote] Ratify the release of Apache Tuscany SDO 1.0-incubating-beta1

2007-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Dear Incubator PMC folks, Can at least 1 or more of you (other than Paul and me!) take a look at this release? It's been pending since May 2nd. thanks, dims On 5/12/07, kelvin goodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks guys, but were still looking for one more vote, since Paul's 2 +1s won't c

RE: Graduation T-Shirts

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jim Jagielski wrote: > > robert burrell donkin wrote: > > > we could do a cracked-eggshell motif as logo > With a feather peaking out :) Cool idea! :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additiona

RE: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yoav, Go ahead and add yourself if the community agrees. You're already a PMC member, so no need for any formal process on our end, other than tracking who is committed to which projects. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-14 Thread Martin Sebor
Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, On 5/14/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "The community mailing list is open to all Apache committers. This is the right list for questions about community and on community building. Subscriptions should be from an Apache email address." In my experience,

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-14 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Yoav, I see your point. I'll try to incorporate the sentiment in the update. Thanks, Craig On May 14, 2007, at 4:39 AM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, On 5/14/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "The community mailing list is open to all Apache committers. This is the right list for

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-05-14 Thread Carl Trieloff
Yoav, Yes thank you, that would be great. Regards, Carl. Yoav Shapira wrote: Qpid peeps, I'll be glad to help as a qpid mentor if you still need someone. Yoav On 5/14/07, Martin Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, just wanted to keep this thread alive as it has been almost a month and

Re: Graduation T-Shirts

2007-05-14 Thread Jim Jagielski
On May 13, 2007, at 9:39 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 5/13/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On May 12, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: or "Our project {hatched|graduated} from the Apache Incubator and all I got was this lousy T-sh

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-05-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
Qpid peeps, I'll be glad to help as a qpid mentor if you still need someone. Yoav On 5/14/07, Martin Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, just wanted to keep this thread alive as it has been almost a month and we are still a mentor short. Regards On 12/04/07, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-05-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 5/14/07, Martin Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, just wanted to keep this thread alive as it has been almost a month and we are still a mentor short. OpenJPA is about to graduation so maybe brian may be able to step up now - robert

Re: Demote TSIK to dormant

2007-05-14 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Yes, Let's please mark it as dormant. -- dims On 5/14/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dims, Is this still the intent (I noted that Kristof Taveirne had been interested in it)? If so, +1, especially given the lack of the Board report, which means you, Sanjiva and I have all vot

Re: WANTED: Another Mentor for QPid

2007-05-14 Thread Martin Ritchie
Hi, just wanted to keep this thread alive as it has been almost a month and we are still a mentor short. Regards On 12/04/07, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian, It would be fantastic to have you help us out in Qpid if you can make it happen. regards Carl. Brian McCallister wro

Re: guides/graduation

2007-05-14 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 5/14/07, Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "The community mailing list is open to all Apache committers. This is the right list for questions about community and on community building. Subscriptions should be from an Apache email address." In my experience, the community mailing

RE: Demote TSIK to dormant

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dims, Is this still the intent (I noted that Kristof Taveirne had been interested in it)? If so, +1, especially given the lack of the Board report, which means you, Sanjiva and I have all voted +1 on the topic. --- Noel -

Yoko Incubator Report?

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Where is the Incubator Board Report for Yoko? http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2007 --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Woden Board Report

2007-05-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Where is the Incubator Report for WODEN? http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2007 --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]