Re: Wink, Traffic Server, VXQuery initial steps

2009-08-07 Thread Till Westmann
On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:27 AM, Leif Hedstrom wrote: On 08/07/2009 02:18 PM, Bryant Luk wrote: Hi, I added Wink and got the clutch/site generated at http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#h-Sponsor . Seems the site has synched up. Please let me know if there's anything else missing. The Tr

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:26:45AM -0700, Ralph Goers wrote: > I agree. If unknown people can generate enough interest from mentors to get > them to volunteer why stop them. OTOH, I would suggest that mentors should be > extra cautious in accepting and particularly watchful as the project starts.

Re: Wink, Traffic Server, VXQuery initial steps

2009-08-07 Thread Leif Hedstrom
On 08/07/2009 02:18 PM, Bryant Luk wrote: Hi, I added Wink and got the clutch/site generated at http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#h-Sponsor . Seems the site has synched up. Please let me know if there's anything else missing. The Traffic Server page has been added, and seems pushed

Re: Wink, Traffic Server, VXQuery initial steps

2009-08-07 Thread Bryant Luk
Hi, I added Wink and got the clutch/site generated at http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#h-Sponsor . Seems the site has synched up. Please let me know if there's anything else missing. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:12 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Would the projects Wink, Traffic Server, VXQuery

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...I would oppose to a podling with no code base and no @apache.org names in the list of initial committers - the chances

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Bertrand > Delacretaz wrote: >> ...I would oppose to a podling with no code base and no @apache.org names >> in the list of initial committers - the chances of morphing that into >> a working Apache project wo

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noah Slater wrote: > > I checked the incubation rules, but couldn't find any mention of this rule. > Our > hopes were that we could start from scratch as a podling, and grow the code > along with the community. Is this going to be possible? It's not mentioned because there is no such rule. Draw

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Noah Slater wrote: >> ...I am thinking about making an incubation proposal for a project I've been >> wanting to do for a while now. I have list of initial committers and a >> technical >> architecture pr

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Ralph Goers
On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:17 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I would oppose to a podling with no code base and no @apache.org names in the list of initial committers - the chances of morphing that into a working Apache project would seem to sl

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 11:01:01AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Noah Slater wrote: >> > ...I am thinking about making an incubation proposal for a project I've >> > been >> > wanting to do for a while now

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > I would oppose to a podling with no code base and no @apache.org names > in the list of initial committers - the chances of morphing that into > a working Apache project would seem to slim to me. I agree, and with one or more committers

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Noah Slater wrote: >> ...I am thinking about making an incubation proposal for a project I've been >> wanting to do for a while now. I have list of initial committers and a >> technical >> architecture pr

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 11:01:01AM +0200, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > > ...I am thinking about making an incubation proposal for a project I've been > > wanting to do for a while now. I have list of initial committers and a > > technical > > ar

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Noah Slater wrote: > ...I am thinking about making an incubation proposal for a project I've been > wanting to do for a while now. I have list of initial committers and a > technical > architecture proposal, but no actual code yet I would oppose to a podling wi

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:24, Noah Slater wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:09:49AM +0200, Bernd Fondermann wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 07:55, Noah Slater wrote: >> > Moreover, in order to provide a seed to grow and ground discussions on >> > technical levels, the ASF incubation rules requir

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:05:46AM +0200, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > A code base is not required, but highly recommended. It is hard to bootstrap a > community from scratch. Having something readily available makes a project > more tangible, and can attract more contributors with more ease. I'm not

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Noah Slater
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:09:49AM +0200, Bernd Fondermann wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 07:55, Noah Slater wrote: > > Moreover, in order to provide a seed to grow and ground discussions on > > technical levels, the ASF incubation rules require the podlings to join the > > incubation process with

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 07:55, Noah Slater wrote: > Hey, > > I am thinking about making an incubation proposal for a project I've been > wanting to do for a while now. I have list of initial committers and a > technical > architecture proposal, but no actual code yet. > >  Moreover, in order to pro

Re: Does an incubation proposal require a codebase?

2009-08-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
A code base is not required, but highly recommended. It is hard to bootstrap a community from scratch. Having something readily available makes a project more tangible, and can attract more contributors with more ease. Conversely, a too mature codebase can be a hindrance to a project as well, where