Re: [VOTE] Release MRUnit version 0.5.0-incubating

2011-11-22 Thread Tom White
+1 Signatures and checksums look good. I could successfully build from source. RAT ran cleanly. Cheers, Tom On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Brock Noland wrote: > This is the first incubator release for Apache MRUnit, version > 0.5.0-incubating. > > It fixes the following issues: > https://issue

Re: [VOTE] Release of Lucene.Net 2.9.4-incubating-RC3

2011-11-22 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-11-23, Prescott Nasser wrote: > I'm happy to announce that Lucene.Net 2.9.4-incubating-RC3 is > available and ready for your testing and voting. This release has one IPMC +1 so far (mine) and needs at least two more. Stefan ---

[VOTE] Release of Lucene.Net 2.9.4-incubating-RC3

2011-11-22 Thread Prescott Nasser
All, I'm happy to announce that Lucene.Net 2.9.4-incubating-RC3 is available and ready for your testing and voting. Release candidate artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~pnasser/Lucene.Net/2.9.4-incubating-RC3/ SVN tag revision: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lucene.net/tag

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:28:06PM +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: > > ...2) We redefine the term Champion to be a sort of meta-mentor who, > > somehow, watches out for bears or missing mentors without necessarily > > getting deeply i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Thanks Bertrand. I guess my whole point is that I think what you guys are discussing as Champion is what I've always felt it was. Anyhoo, take care and Happy Holidays (at least out here in the States!) :-) Cheers, Chris On Nov 22, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > On Nov 22, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> ...But as you say that role evaporates once the project starts, so it >> seems to make sense to give more meaning to it, considering that that >> fills some existing gaps.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
On Nov 22, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > [..snip..] > But as you say that role evaporates once the project starts, so it > seems to make sense to give more meaning to it, considering that that > fills some existing gaps. That hasn't been my experience at all. I've been a Champion

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: >> 3. The Champion is not necessarily a mentor. > > Not sure if that actually makes sense. I think a Champion is a mentor > by default somehow... Not if a podling PPMC me

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > ...2) We redefine the term Champion to be a sort of meta-mentor who, > somehow, watches out for bears or missing mentors without necessarily > getting deeply involved... That's exactly what I'm suggesting. > > ...As far as I'm concerned

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Benson Margulies
The last time I was in this neighborhood, I was told (by no less than our esteemed chairman) that the Champion's role was purely to play Virgil on a podling's initial tour of the Foundation and the Incubator. Once the podling was accepted, the Champion evaporated. If I add Bertrand and Christian's

Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 on everything, just a few comments... On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > 3. The Champion is not necessarily a mentor. Not sure if that actually makes sense. I think a Champion is a mentor by default somehow > 4. The podling can elect a new Champion at any time I

[PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)

2011-11-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Incubator PMC, On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Brett Porter wrote: > ...Should we appoint one of the mentors at the start to be the "chair" of the > PPMC, in the same > way as a full project? I would see them as responsible for ensuring the > podling is reporting, and > that all of the ment

Re: Committers welcome email

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
On 22 November 2011 18:08, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > The following point was recently made on another list: >> You were given a commit bit on the expectation that you'll use it >> reasonably and with common sense. > > Does Incubator communicate to initial podling commiters the above, and > other expe

Re: Committers welcome email

2011-11-22 Thread Benson Margulies
I feel very lucky that my podlings have gotten this sort of thing right pretty much without me. I've been thinking that I should, in future, grab their attention and remind them of some things early and often. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > The following point was recentl

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
I went over the whole thread and I like idea, but I have one concern, what if the non of the mentors agreed to be the initial chair of the podling, Does this stop the podling from being accepted ? Does this mean that all mentors are not allowed to be accepted as mentors ? Or Champion needs to find

Committers welcome email

2011-11-22 Thread Daniel Shahaf
The following point was recently made on another list: > You were given a commit bit on the expectation that you'll use it > reasonably and with common sense. Does Incubator communicate to initial podling commiters the above, and other expectations from commiters? Does anyone point initial commit

[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether "Apache Rat" is a suitable name

2011-11-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1: -- Description: The Rat podling brought together aRat and

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin > wrote: >> >> soft time limits (sign off copyright within 3 >> months or expect IPMC scrutiny) would probably be useful, I think. > > +1 I think we might be in a position now to document a

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
On 22 November 2011 14:08, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >> To me a lot of the problem stems from the fact that the reports are >> misdirected- instead of informing the board about the activities of >> the IPMC, it tells them about the podling's

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Sam Ruby
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > > soft time limits (sign off copyright within 3 > months or expect IPMC scrutiny) would probably be useful, I think. +1 > Robert - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-m

[Podling Suitable Name Search] Feedback Please

2011-11-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
I've setup a JIRA project [1] and worked through[2] an outline process[3] for "rat". I plan to head over to the trademarks team and get feedback + interpretation sometime soon. So now would be a good opportunity to jump in with improvements (documentation and process) and objections. Please feel

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > But I think you mentioned something important, the fuzzy benchmarks. There > are some we can make more critical, like: sign copyright stuff within > 3 months or leave. Something like that. Legal stuff isn't always clear cut (Sam's f

[jira] [Updated] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1) Establish whether "Apache Rat" is a suitable name

2011-11-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-1: -- Evidence Of Use On World Wide Web: Searched for "rat"

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > To me a lot of the problem stems from the fact that the reports are > misdirected- instead of informing the board about the activities of > the IPMC, it tells them about the podling's activities, which doesn't > scale properly. > > We should b

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Benson Margulies
I am +1 to Joe's formulation of short-term action items. I'd like to graduate one or two of my personal ducklings before I sign up to start acting as a wandering nuncio to others. On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 22 November 2011 10:20, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> On T

[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Wookie 0.9.1-incubating RC5 (General Incubation List)

2011-11-22 Thread Paul Sharples
The vote has now closed. We had already received 1 IPMC +1 vote (plus an additional 3 PPMC +1 votes) during the release voting on wookie-dev. We now have 2 additional IPMC votes (3 in total). Results: IPMC Members/Mentors: +1 [3] 0 [0] -1 [0] PPMC Members: +1 [3] 0 [0] -1 [0] The vote is

[RESULT] [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-22 Thread Marcel Offermans
It's time to call the vote on the "community graduation vote" for ACE. The results: +1: Bertrand Delacretaz (***), Karl Pauls (***), Carsten Ziegeler (***), Felix Meschberger (**), Toni Menzel, Brian Topping, Clement Escoffier (**), Angelo van der Sijpt, , Alexander Broekhuis, David Bosschaert

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
On 22 November 2011 10:20, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>>... We should be reporting to the board about OUR work, not the work of >>> the podlings.  Podlings should only be brought in for a

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>>... We should be reporting to the board about OUR work, not the work of >>> the podlings.  Podlings should only be brought in

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread ant elder
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>>... We should be reporting to the board about OUR work, not the work of >>> the podlings.  Podlings should only be brought in

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>... We should be reporting to the board about OUR work, not the work of >> the podlings.  Podlings should only be brought in for a few specific >> examplesto mention.  That's the first thing

Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator

2011-11-22 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
+1 (binding) Hadrian On 11/17/2011 05:42 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project. Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers (12 in total now) from diverse organiza

Re: should podlings have informal chairs?

2011-11-22 Thread Ross Gardler
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Nov 22, 2011 1:40 AM, "Shane Curcuru" wrote: > > ... > +1 to what Joe is saying below. The Incubator needs to do a far better job both supporting it's projects (better mentors, better IPMC oversight), as well as managing itself (