Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 24.01.2013 06:16, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 05:05:42 +0100: There are currently no links to the actual vote threads. Also I'm having a bit of trouble with the feed from mod_mbox, as it's quite short-term and doesn't seem to be at all complete; that's

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: ...the current results are here: http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator-votes.html That page (should) get updated every 4 hours... Cool - it might make sense to integrate with https://whimsy.apache.org/ -Bertrand

Re: [PROPOSAL] RDBMSSR: RDBMS Software Redundancy Proposal

2013-01-24 Thread Greg Stein
On Jan 24, 2013 2:53 AM, Federico Strati fede.str...@gmail.com wrote: ... The proposed idea is in its very early stage of conception, so any discussion, even if completely against it (but with good reasons), will be appreciated as well as any pointer to related on going efforts in any project.

Re: [PROPOSAL] RDBMSSR: RDBMS Software Redundancy Proposal

2013-01-24 Thread Federico Strati
Hello Greg, thanks for the reply. I just answer shortly to a couple of points you raised. IMO, RDBMS independence is a useless goal. Software deployments never wake up on a Thursday, and say, let's change our database. Always, the goal is to store information, and to make the best use of the

Re: [PROPOSAL] RDBMSSR: RDBMS Software Redundancy Proposal

2013-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Federico Strati fede.str...@gmail.com wrote: ...Maybe you may suggest me the appropriate forum as well As you don't seem to have code or a community yet, and there was apparently no interest in your original proposal, it's probably better to start

Re: [PROPOSAL] RDBMSSR: RDBMS Software Redundancy Proposal

2013-01-24 Thread Greg Stein
On Jan 24, 2013 5:41 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Federico Strati fede.str...@gmail.com wrote: ...Maybe you may suggest me the appropriate forum as well As you don't seem to have code or a community yet, and there was

Re: [PROPOSAL] RDBMSSR: RDBMS Software Redundancy Proposal

2013-01-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: ...While I may disagree with the concept, I have no real opposition to people attempting to spin up projects here Me neither, I'm not opposing, just suggesting a way that might be more efficient. -Bertrand

Re: [PROPOSAL] RDBMSSR: RDBMS Software Redundancy Proposal

2013-01-24 Thread Federico Strati
Il 24/01/2013 11:54, Bertrand Delacretaz ha scritto: On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: ...While I may disagree with the concept, I have no real opposition to people attempting to spin up projects here Me neither, I'm not opposing, just suggesting a way

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Joachim Dreimann
Good work Brane. Just one feature suggestion: Could you display the relative time (ie '3 days ago') in the table, and the absolute time in tooltips? That would make it much easier to read I reckon. Cheers, Joe On 24 January 2013 04:05, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: A while ago I

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Gary Martin
We all seem to want a bit of feature creep. I would probably include a last update time for the page. Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail doesn't take cc's as being on the list or

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote: We all seem to want a bit of feature creep. I would probably include a last update time for the page. Guys, you're committers, the code is in Subversion, go wild :) Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it looks like the

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100: On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote: Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail doesn't take cc's as being on the list or

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Gary Martin
On 24/01/13 16:19, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100: On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote: Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail doesn't take

Re: Getting IPMC members to vote Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating)

2013-01-24 Thread Benson Margulies
If you model the IPMC as a group of volunteers who have collectively volunteered to mentor and supervise new projects, then the current situation strongly suggests that we have either too many projects or not enough volunteers. Calling people 'lazy' has rarely been observed to get them to do more

Re: Getting IPMC members to vote Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Bloodhound 0.4 (incubating)

2013-01-24 Thread Olemis Lang
Hi ! On 1/24/13, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: [...] So, in my entirely personal opinion, this leaves two directions: more volunteers or less projects. In the extreme, some would read this as a reason to close the gates to new projects until we have proven capacity. Is

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 24.01.2013 17:19, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Branko Čibej wrote on Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 13:40:29 +0100: On 24.01.2013 13:25, Gary Martin wrote: Interestingly, the form that Ryan announced the results means that it looks like the Bloodhound vote is still open. I'll guess that markmail doesn't

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 24.01.2013 22:01, Branko Čibej wrote: I've noticed before that our archives seem to be incomplete, and indeed it appears that the mbox files contain only messages To: a list, everything that actually gets delivered to subscribers by the list server. I meant to say, /not/ everything that

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 21.01.2013 21:08, Benson Margulies wrote: On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Matt Franklin m.ben.frank...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 21, 2013, Benson Margulies wrote: Matt, can you reference the policy that category A deps can't be sitting in svn in binary? Of course, these folks

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Chris Douglas
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Masanz, James J. masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: One goal is to have a binary that contains all resources, which can be used to install cTAKES on a system that does not have an internet connection. For now we can focus on a first Apache release that doesn't meet

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Ted Dunning
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 21.01.2013 21:08, Benson Margulies wrote: ... I am referring to this discussion http://s.apache.org/MUZ Well, that clear enough, even if it is a typical example of how our founders yell at us but we have no

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Branko Čibej
On 25.01.2013 01:50, Ted Dunning wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: On 21.01.2013 21:08, Benson Margulies wrote: ... I am referring to this discussion http://s.apache.org/MUZ Well, that clear enough, even if it is a typical example of how our

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Benson Margulies
It's unfortunate to have this conversation in parallel here and on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-157. Also, this thread is a combo of the discussion of ordinary jars-of-classes (where I'd forgotten the policy) and the much more tangled question of models, which is what the JIRA is

Re: Incubator voting status page

2013-01-24 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Great job, Brane! On 1/24/13 3:50 AM, Joachim Dreimann joachim.dreim...@wandisco.com wrote: Good work Brane. Just one feature suggestion: Could you display the relative time (ie '3 days ago') in the table, and the absolute time in tooltips? That would make it much easier to read I reckon.

Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release

2013-01-24 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 this sounds great to me, too. Cheers, Chris On 1/24/13 3:08 PM, Chris Douglas cdoug...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Masanz, James J. masanz.ja...@mayo.edu wrote: One goal is to have a binary that contains all resources, which can be used to install cTAKES on a system