On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
> 2) more direct leadership that seeks basic consensus on very
> specific and clear new changes, but doesn't let discussions get weighed down
> with too many options, or stalled by a relative handful of -0s.
The hard work of forging consensu
As the chair here, I start from the premise that I've been invited to serve
as the chair of the incubator as we know it. I have some sympathy for Chris
M's views, but the job I have here is, first and foremost, to facilitate
making the existing thing work. So I expect to be one of the last people t
Personally, I would find IPMC issues much easier to follow if we all
limited threads to more specific topics, and started new threads for new
specific topics. This one is still pretty buried.
On 3/29/2013 1:11 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
...
I don't accept that using yourself as an example of how
Hahah, we all need sleep?
What?!! :)
Take care duder, we'll spent some cycles doing other emails while
we let this sit.
Cheers,
Chris
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91
Chris,
The fundamental issue is that I don't agree the IPMC needs deconstructing.
I believe it finds it difficult to come to a decision when unusual
circumstance arises, but most of the time it does fine.
I don't accept that using yourself as an example of how we can find
sufficient mentors for a
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Hi Ross,
-Original Message-
From: Ross Gardler
Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org"
Date: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:09 AM
To: general
Subject: Re: Vote on personal matters: majority vote vs consensus
>We clearly differ with our view if how muc
I don't suppose that I could convince folks to start a new thread for the
topic, 'The Incubator is a FAIL', and leave this one to the patch for the
decision process?
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> We clearly differ with our view if how much is delegated from board to
> IP
We clearly differ with our view if how much is delegated from board to
IPMC. The amount of work the board does on x podlings weach month is less
than the work they do on x TLPs. That is without the IPMC addressing issues
that come up every now and again. We can go into detail if it becomes
necessar
On Thursday, 2013-03-28, Chris Douglas wrote:
[...]
> Is this a question of standing, where material harm needs to be demonstrated?
> The IPMC is needlessly inefficient and abusive of its podlings. Novel
> "compliance" mechanisms are literally invented and argued about on
> general@ during podli
The vote has passed with 9 binding +1 and no objections:
- Mohammad Nour El-Din (Mentor)
- Bertrand Delacretaz
- Mark Struberg
- Rich Bowen
- Niall Pemperton
- Chris Mattmann
- Olivier Lamy (Mentor)
- Tommaso Teofili
- Christian Grobmeier (Mentor)
We'll start the graduation process in the next da
my own +1
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Apache Onami entered incubation before more than 3 months. Since then
> the community has proven to be pretty active and healthy.
>
> A few releases were made and the status page has been completed:
> http://incub
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