Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Marmotta as TLP

2013-11-19 Thread Jakob Frank
The way I understand it, we are not taking away any power or possibility from the project. The PMC can decide to create bylaws at a later point, we're just starting off with an empty set for now. In the end, it feels wrong to just copy some default bylaws for graduation while we had no need for

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Ambari from Apache Incubator

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Yusaku Sako yus...@hortonworks.com wrote: This is a call for vote to graduate Ambari from Apache Incubator +1, congrats! -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [VOTE] Retire the Provisionr podling

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Andrei Savu as...@apache.org wrote: [X ] +1 Retire the Provisionr podling Please tally the vote at [1], right now it's left hanging AFAICS. -Bertrand [1] http://s.apache.org/xtG - To

Re: Do we need a disclaimer? (Storm)

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Craig L Russell craig.russ...@oracle.com wrote: ...I think Storm could do the same. There is specific interest in the incubating Storm community but not general interest in the wider Apache community... +1 Another similar (but older) example is Wicket which

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 November 2013 12:17, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: ... My guess is that Lazy Majority is used because Majority implies more than 50% of possible voters need to vote. My guess is that it is a misprint for Lazy

Re: [VOTE] Retire the Provisionr podling

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
Andrei Savu wrote: Hi - We voted [1] to retire the Provisionr podling form the Apache Incubator. Following the retirement guide, it is now time for an IPMC vote to ratify the decision. [ ] +1 Retire the Provisionr podling [ ] +0 Neither here nor there [ ] -1 Do not retire the podling

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 November 2013 12:17, Justin Mclean jus...@classsoftware.com wrote: ... My guess is that Lazy Majority is used because Majority implies more than 50% of possible voters need to vote. My guess

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi David, On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...lazy majority is mentioned at http://ant.apache.org/bylaws.html but I didn't know there was such a concept in our projects. Many projects use it. See this Google search:

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-19 Thread ant elder
The reason it might be dis-empowering is that currently one of the main roles of the PPMC is voting in new committers so if the PPMC is initially just the mentors then the other podling members wont be involved in that. It might still be worth trying the approach as an experiment if a willing

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-19 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Then lets disambiguate by not referring to the “IP Stewards” as being the PPMC. Seems simple enough. On Nov 19, 2013, at 4:34 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: The reason it might be dis-empowering is that currently one of the main roles of the PPMC is voting in new committers so if

Re: Majority vs Lazy Majority

2013-11-19 Thread Stephen Connolly
well that type of lazy majority is really a majority of binding votes cast with a quorum which differs from majority of binding votes cast, majority of votes cast and quorum (i.e. the needs 3x+1 to release... because remember you cannot veto releases ;-) though only a fool of a release manager

[VOTE][RESULT] Graduate Ambari from Apache Incubator

2013-11-19 Thread Yusaku Sako
Hi all, I'm happy to announce that this VOTE has passed with the following 7 +1's (all binding): Mahadev Konar* Arun Murthy* Owen O'Malley* Devaraj Das* Chris Mattman* Roman Shaposhnik* Bertrand Delacretaz* * - indicates IPMC Thank you all for voting! Regards, Yusaku Sako On Fri, Nov 15,

[VOTE] helix-0.7.0-incubating

2013-11-19 Thread Zhen Zhang
Hi, This is to call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Helix 0.7.0-incubating. This is the first release candidate of our fourth release at Apache. Apache Helix is a generic cluster management framework that makes it easy to build partitioned and replicated, fault tolerant

Re: [VOTE] Retire the Provisionr podling

2013-11-19 Thread Andrei Savu
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:43 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.orgwrote: So far we've got 2 votes from IPMC members (not counting my own): I don't understand why yours would not be counted. And that makes 3. I'm counting my vote as a PPMC member mainly because I've joined the IPMC

application for applying to be part of the IPMC?

2013-11-19 Thread James Taylor
Hello, I understand from here[1] that Mentors must be part of the IPMC. Is there an official application or set of questions that one should fill out if he or she would like to be considered? Thanks, James [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#mentors-ipmc

Re: application for applying to be part of the IPMC?

2013-11-19 Thread Jake Farrell
Hey James Thanks for your interest in helping out. The IPMC is like any other PMC within the ASF as the members are voted on based on merit, the one exception is that ASF members may ask to join the IPMC freely. The following links explain in detail the structure of the incubator and how things

Re: [VOTE] helix-0.7.0-incubating

2013-11-19 Thread Mahadev Konar
+1 for the release. Mahadev Konar Hortonworks Inc. http://hortonworks.com/ On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Zhen Zhang zzh...@apache.org wrote: Hi, This is to call for a vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache Helix 0.7.0-incubating. This is the first release candidate of our

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread Jake Farrell
Please follow the incubation graduation guide http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html see the Transferring resources #3.2 user Websites Websites 1. Transfer the podling website 1. Load the website into its new home. See infra noteshttp://www.apache.org/dev/#web .

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
When I tried to commit the change, I get: svn: E175013: Commit failed (details follow): svn: E175013: Access to '/repos/asf/!svn/me' forbidden On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote: Please follow the incubation graduation guide

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread Joseph Schaefer
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman randg...@apache.org wrote: Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org? You need to create an .htaccess file at the top-level of your tree with the following contents

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread Joseph Schaefer
On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman randg...@apache.org wrote: Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org? You need to

[ANNOUNCE] Dave Brondsema joins the IPMC

2013-11-19 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greetings, The Incubator PMC has voted to invite Dave Brondsema, of the Allura podling and the Forrest PMC, to join its ranks. Dave has accepted our invitation. Welcome aboard, Dave! Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Incubator PMC

[ANNOUNCE] Till Westmann joins the IPMC

2013-11-19 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greetings, The Incubator PMC has voted to offer membership to Till Westmann of the VXQuery podling, and he has accepted. Thanks for joining up, Till! Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Incubator PMC - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
Jordan Zimmerman wrote: Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org? You asked this a few hours ago on infrastructure@ and were given complete and additional answers by various separate people. Now you have more people

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
David Crossley wrote: Jordan Zimmerman wrote: Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org? You asked this a few hours ago on infrastructure@ and were given complete and additional answers by various separate

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread Joseph Schaefer
No there’s a difference. Before he was asking what infra was going to do to magically make this happen. That request was denied. Now we have a better question: what can he do himself to make this happen? Here there are some answers to questions that should be addressed in the incubator docs

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
Jordan Zimmerman wrote: When I tried to commit the change, I get: svn: E175013: Commit failed (details follow): svn: E175013: Access to '/repos/asf/!svn/me' forbidden Are you able to commit to other stuff? e.g. your podling status page or to podlings.xml file. You would have had that access

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Already resolved. A Forbidden response instead of a failed auth request almost always implies committing using http. On Nov 20, 2013, at 12:28 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: Jordan Zimmerman wrote: When I tried to commit the change, I get: svn: E175013: Commit failed

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
Joseph Schaefer wrote: No there’s a difference. Before he was asking what infra was going to do to magically make this happen. That request was denied. Now we have a better question: what can he do himself to make this happen? Here there are some answers to questions that should be

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread David Crossley
Joseph Schaefer wrote: Already resolved. A Forbidden response instead of a failed auth request almost always implies committing using http. Great, thanks for following up. What a committer trap that one is. A while ago we added that to the FAQ: Google: site:apache.org/dev committer https

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:05 AM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote: ...A while ago we added that to the FAQ: http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#commit-403 (although that seems to use old terminology). http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html I have moved (and linked) the