Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-20 Thread ant elder
Its not totally clear to me what that would look like. What would then be the difference between an IP Stewards and what we currently call mentor, where would they discuss and vote on adding new IP Stewards? I'm not saying it couldn't be made to work and i guess this is the sort of thing an

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-20 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Please don’t cry out for something simple, you know what my answer is but you don’t like hearing it. The bottom line is that we need to provide to the board, possibly on a per-podling basis, a list of people we have approved for making binding decisions about release votes. Why you want to tie

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: ...My issue is that granting PMC membership is too big a step for many podling members. Going from being newbie podling member, to a part of a team responsible for 50+ incubator projects is, with the freedom to mentor

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-20 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Can I just ask how many people have we encountered who upon being offered IPMC membership turned it down with grounds along these lines? Why do we design policy about the fringes and not the happy, average, well-adjusted individuals we meet daily here who would be honored to help out and act

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Can I just ask how many people have we encountered who upon being offered IPMC membership turned it down with grounds along these lines?... I'm not saying there are any, hence starting my suggesting with assuming

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Joseph Schaefer wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 23:18:11 -0500: On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:40 PM, Jordan Zimmerman randg...@apache.org wrote: Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have

[VOTE] Release HDT version 0.0.1.incubating (RC1)

2013-11-20 Thread Rahul Sharma
Hi, I would like to call for a vote for Apache Hadoop Development Tools (incubating), version 0.0.1.incubating. The vote has happened of the dev mailing list and the community has approved the second release candidate(RC1) for Apache Hadoop Development Tools (incubating), version

INFRA-6774

2013-11-20 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
Can someone please explain to me what I need to do to have curator.incubator.apache.org redirect to curator.apache.org?

[VOTE] Release Apache Knox-0.3.1-incubating RC3

2013-11-20 Thread larry mccay
Hello All, This is a call for a vote on Apache Knox Gateway 0.3.1 incubating. A vote was held on developer mailing list and it passed with 3 +1's, and 0 -1's or +0's and now requires a vote on general@incubator.apache.org. The [VOTE] thread can be found at:

Re: INFRA-6774

2013-11-20 Thread Joseph Schaefer
Oh snap Daniel nice job with that. I didn’t even notice that stanza in the config file before! On Nov 20, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Joseph Schaefer wrote on Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 23:18:11 -0500: On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Joseph Schaefer

[VOTE] Apache Helix as TLP Resolution

2013-11-20 Thread Olivier Lamy
Hi, Here the vote for Apache Helix as TLP graduation. The vote result for dev@helix.i.a.o is available here: http://markmail.org/message/22orwjy2v3d4af67 Vote open for 72H [+1] [0] [-1] X. Resolution to establish the Apache Helix Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the

Adding IPMC members based on PPMC merit

2013-11-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: and bug #2 is this scheme of adding IPMC members based on PPMC merit. Adding IPMC members based on PPMC merit was the implementation which garnered the most support on the first go-around. Unfortunately, things

Populating the initial PPMC

2013-11-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote: I am concerned that it would be dis-empowering to the incoming community if at least the active and major developers of the podling were not on the PPMC at the start. I don't see how we might divide up an Initial Committer

Re: Populating the initial PPMC

2013-11-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Dislike. For small projects, PPMC == Committers is a great starting point. For huge projects like OpenOffice something like this would have been chaos unleashed. If it were 3 or 4 then I would not have volunteered to be a Mentor for Apache Flex. To me the answer should remain somewhere

Re: Transition Incubator dist area

2013-11-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: If I've done everything right, it should be possible for Infra to flip the switch and use new-style dist.apache.org synchronization at the incubator/ level. Infra flipped the switch today. We now use