Re: [VOTE] Argus as a new incubator project

2014-07-24 Thread Owen O'Malley
With 10 binding +1's and 5 non-binding +1's and no -1's, the vote passes. Thanks everyone, Owen On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 9:34 PM, j...@nanthrax.net wrote: +1 (binding) Regards JB On 2014-07-23 22:32, Arun Murthy wrote: +1 (binding) Arun On Jul 21, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Owen

Re: [VOTE] Argus as a new incubator project

2014-07-24 Thread Alejandro Abdelnur
BTW, my prior offer on doing this stands. We just need interest in both ends. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: +1 (binding) Diversity and 'nonpartisan' governance will be critical for graduating a security project, in my opinion, so it will be

Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Anyone clarify this as it's not mentioned at [1]. Whose votes are binding for releases on the podlings dev list? Obviously mentors and PPMC members, but are IPMC members votes binding? I would assume so but don't see it stated anywhere. Would Apache members votes be binding? Assuming IPMC

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread rgardler
As a mentor I've (nearly) always advised that if there are three IPMC votes on the dev list then there is no need to make further noise on the general list with unnecessary +1's. I therefore point out in the general@ vote mail that 3 binding (IPMC) +1's have been received and therefore there is

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, As a mentor I've (nearly) always advised that if there are three IPMC votes on the dev list then there is no need to make further noise on the general list with unnecessary +1's. I therefore point out in the general@ vote mail that 3 binding (IPMC) +1's have been received and therefore

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread Ross Gardler
There is no formal PPMC. When a podling is created all initial committers are equal. I guess some podlings might create the concept of a separate PPMC during incubation. I've never advised that in my own podlings (probably because I'm a believer in an absolute minimum barrier to entry). I guess

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread John D. Ament
Ross, The incubator website would be inclined to disagree, and seems to acknowledge there is formally a PPMC at [1]. Justin, I think formally, if you review [2] (you may also want to scroll down, and review later parts of this page on voting), you'll see that the PPMC votes really don't count

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
My interpretation (and it's just that) is: Example: Release Vote A podling votes to release (VOTE email to dev@project). The PPMC and IPMC/PPMC (i.e. Mentors) member votes are binding at the PPMC level. This means that those votes are binding and community votes are non-binding. If the PPMC

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread Ted Dunning
Sounds right to me. As a separate matter of etiquette and community building, it is usually good form for mentors to vote last during the community vote and first in the IPMC vote. On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:44 PM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@gmail.com wrote: My interpretation (and it's just

Re: Podling binding votes

2014-07-24 Thread Henry Saputra
Yes, this is what I had seen and recommended to podlings I have been involved with. - Henry On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:44 PM, P. Taylor Goetz ptgo...@gmail.com wrote: My interpretation (and it's just that) is: Example: Release Vote A podling votes to release (VOTE email to dev@project). The