What is a healthy community? WAS: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
he same as not having a community. Do you have such a community for each of the log4X packages? One to "[take] over a project if and when the need arises"? --- Noel -- Ceki Gülcü The complete log4j manual: http://www.qos.ch/log4j/ ---

Fwd: log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-01 Thread Ceki Gülcü
FYI List-Post: <mailto:general@incubator.apache.org> List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 11:27:38 +0100 To: general@incubator.apache.org From: Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: log4ne

log4net 1.2.9 beta release

2005-03-01 Thread Ceki Gülcü
, [1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases%0D [2] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11089248781&r=1&w=2 [3] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11091988193&r=1&w=2 -- Ceki Gülcü - T

RE: [VOTE] Graduating log4cxx

2004-12-27 Thread Ceki Gülcü
e: Ceki, I have reviewed http://incubator.apache.org/projects/log4cxx.html. If the Logging PMC is taking responsibility, collectively, for maintaining this codebase as part of the overall Logging project, I won't consider the small number of committers worrisome. --- Noel -- Ceki Gülcü

Re: log4net incubation [was:] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-15 Thread Ceki Gülcü
he one I have linked to in all my previous mails. OK. Thanks. I'll use that template. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains)

Re: log4net incubation [was:] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-15 Thread Ceki Gülcü
ish I had more time to deal with this bureaucracy. -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Golux.Com/coar/ Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/ "Millennium hand and shrimp!" -- Ceki Gülcü For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4

RE: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-14 Thread Ceki Gülcü
wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: > It would helpful if the purpose of the Incubator was clarified. If > it is an inspection tool, then it should not be disguised as a > service. Nutshell: the purpose of the Incubator is to help bring projects into the ASF, while ensuring that the proper procedure

RE: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-14 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 08:01 PM 1/13/2004 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: > It would helpful if the purpose of the Incubator was clarified. If > it is an inspection tool, then it should not be disguised as a > service. Nutshell: the purpose of the Incubator is to help bring projects int

Re: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-13 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 03:02 PM 1/12/2004 -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > Once the legal aspects are resolved, why adopt such a radical > position? Is it warranted? the resolution of the legal aspects is done by the incubator. why don't restaurants perform their own heal

Re: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 09:19 AM 1/12/2004 -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: > >>> From what I understand so far, I can't see any advantages for *log4net* >>>to come through the Incubator instead of LS. >> >>http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html#does_p

Re: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 11:49 AM 1/12/2004 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: ... From what I understand so far, I can't see any advantages for *log4net* to come through the Incubator instead of LS. http://incubator.apache.org/faq.html#does_project_X_really_need_Incubation http://incubator.apach

RE: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-12 Thread Ceki Gülcü
nity cannot be imposed from above. The project needs time to evolve naturally. --- Noel -- Ceki Gülcü For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual" ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp -

RE: [VOTE] Re: request for incubation: axion database project

2003-12-22 Thread Ceki Gülcü
en to http://incubator.apache.org/axion, then to http://db.apache.org/axion, all in a matter of weeks. What does all this disruption buy for us? -- Ceki Gülcü For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual" ISBN: 2970036908 http://www.qos.ch/shop/pro

RE: Looking for help from incubation

2003-12-20 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 10:32 AM 12/20/2003 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > Ceki, in our search for a much smoother way to do things, we have devised > > the concept of a PPMC. This is an entity under the Incubator PMC that > > consists of the Incubator PMC members, the project

RE: Looking for help from incubation

2003-12-20 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Noel, How about if we had a single list: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]," consisting of at least one Incubator PMC member, all Logging Services PMC members, and developers from the incoming projects to be incubated? At 12:57 PM 12/19/2003 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ceki Gülcü wrote: > We are

Looking for help from incubation

2003-12-19 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hello, We are looking for a member of the Incubator project to help the Logging Services project to incubate some of the log4j sister projects originating from outside the ASF. Are there any volunteers? -- Ceki Gülcü For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual"

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-20 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 02:54 PM 9/18/2003 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: Without a clear sense of responsibility, the end result are that podlings are essentially left on their own and "every" Incubator member thinks someone else is doing the oversight. :/ I think Jim makes a good point. -- Ceki Gülcü

Re: LOGGING TLP (Re: request for feedback on usage log management)

2003-08-14 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Tetsuya, From an architectural perspective, I think the logging component should delegate i8n support to a specialized component. So it makes sense for log4j to rely on "i18n" TLP project although more information on the "i18n" project is needed to pursue the discussion. Where can I find more

JBoss people are asking to review the code

2003-08-10 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hello, I have received a request from Sacha Labourey (from the JBoss group) to review the existing code in our J2EE project to check whether there any IP issues with respect to the JBoss group. Sounds like a reasonable request to me. Are we ready to allow this, and if not, why not? Please note

Call to follow procedure

2003-08-08 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Given the legal uncertainties related to our J2EE project, allow me to suggest that the committers to this project be required to send a duly signed copy of the contributor agreement to our Secretary. This is nothing but standard ASF procedure and it could not do harm to follow our own procedur

Re: Call to follow procedure

2003-08-06 Thread Ceki Gülcü
or committing? ~Andy On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 10:15, Ceki Gülcü wrote: > Given the legal uncertainties related to our J2EE project, allow me to > suggest that the committers to this project be required to send a duly > signed copy of the contributor agreement to our Secretary. This is nothing