Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-26 Thread Kevan Miller
On Oct 25, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, On 10/25/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread James Carman
How about ErroRat, a play on Ararat? On 10/24/07, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like plain rat, and since rat is common word I doubt we have to worry about trademark violations. I also don't confuse it with any other projects in the java space.. so I think it's ok. On 10/23/07,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Kevan Miller
On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) the name RAT has been discussed previously - see

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hey, On 10/25/07, Kevan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody give me guidance on how unique names need to be? For My take on it (IANAL) is that uniqueness doesn't matter. In fact, that's why there's already N1 projects named Composer as you noted in your example. Project name

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that there are existing open source projects named RAT as well as commercial software containing RAT in their name. aRATicate, known as RAT for short? ;-) --- Noel

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread sebb
RATify? Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that there are existing open source projects named RAT as well as commercial software containing RAT in their

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On 10/25/07, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RATify? that sounds cool(er) ;) Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAT is a good name and popular but i'm still a little concerned that there are existing open source

RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. You mean trademark? :-) --- Noel

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Davanum Srinivas
RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool! -- dims On 10/25/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/25/07, sebb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RATify? that sounds cool(er) ;) Or rat as in the verb - to rat on something ;-) On 25/10/2007, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Craig L Russell
Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination... But in the end, I'll defer to the authors. Craig On Oct 25, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: RATify ratifies Artifacts? :) cool! -- dims On 10/25/07, Matthias

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/25/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I prefer RAT over RATify regardless of the capitalization. Let's leave something to the imagination... Same here, Apache RAT sounds good to me. -Bertrand - To

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. You mean trademark? :-) Noel , I cam

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-25 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 10/25/07, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Project name uniqueness should not be a criterion for Incubator acceptance. I would even go further and say clear copyright infringement is probably the only reason to ask for a name change. You mean

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mentors -- * Yoav Shapira yoavs AT guess ;) * Ross Gardler rgardler AT apache.org I would prefer mentors who have not been involved with RAT. This will

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Hiram Chirino
I like plain rat, and since rat is common word I doubt we have to worry about trademark violations. I also don't confuse it with any other projects in the java space.. so I think it's ok. On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-24 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 03:59, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: before i call for a VOTE. I think you can go ahead with RAT. Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

[PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) the name RAT has been discussed previously - see

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RatProposal has been stable for a while now so i'd like to throw it open to final scrutiny before i call for a VOTE. (please don't vote yet ;-) Looks like a solid proposal to me! As far as the name is

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mentors -- * Yoav Shapira yoavs AT guess ;) * Ross Gardler rgardler AT apache.org I would prefer mentors who have not been involved with RAT. This will allow a more objective perspective. I doubt that supervision

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache RAT

2007-10-23 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I'll volunteer...having done lot's of releases for Geronimo I have an affinity for the little beast. On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:52 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On 10/23/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mentors -- * Yoav Shapira yoavs AT guess ;) * Ross