Re: Approving flawed release candidates

2017-02-16 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > While I agree with what both John and Marvin are saying, the key word here > is “discretion”. +1 for IPMC members applying discretion. I've submitted some suggestions which I hope other IPMC members will consider, and

Re: Approving flawed release candidates

2017-02-15 Thread Julian Hyde
While I agree with what both John and Marvin are saying, the key word here is “discretion”. Obviously the IPMC shouldn’t give podlings too hard a time (we all know how difficult and time consuming it is to go through a cycle consisting of a release candidate and TWO votes, and the mechanics of

Re: Approving flawed release candidates

2017-02-15 Thread John D. Ament
Hi Marvin, I don't think there's anything you're stating here that isn't in accordance to processes we have been following. If I look at the current Traffic Control vote, the problems I see are: - Assertion from the podling that they fixed the release, and votes from mentors indicating they

Approving flawed release candidates

2017-02-15 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greets, We take pains to advise downstream consumers that podling releases are "incubating" because they may not live up to the standards expected of Apache TLPs -- whether that is because the community is not mature, because the release is not fully compliant with ASF policies, or what have you.