Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-27 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Davanum Srinivas wrote: Is this about competing podlings? or existing projects/new podlings? The Competing Projects thread is a general umbrella of how the incubator should approach any two proposed podlings that overlap in scope, or a proposed podling that overlaps in scope with an existing

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-26 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Is this about competing podlings? or existing projects/new podlings? -- dims On 12/26/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 23, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I think it's a concern because the precedent puts the podling on the

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-26 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 26 December 2006 14:24, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: People can truly dislike others in the same project, and yet collaborate towards a common goal. If we take another heated example, Avalon, which was heavily criticized for its unhealthy community; IMHO, it was the different

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-25 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 23, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I think it's a concern because the precedent puts the podling on the defensive and in the mind set of oh, if there's a competing project, we won't accept you. The fact that there's a project already here that

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Dec 22, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 12/22/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simple one-liner similar to Geir's No other ASF project or podling in the architecture space is based on Jini is enough I think... This is getting off-topic, but really why do we

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Dec 22, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: We have lots of competing proposals and projects all across the ASF. And, many of them don't communicate for extremely petty and personal reasons; IMO, that is a shame... competition is good. Territorialism (if that's even a word :) )

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Dec 23, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Dec 22, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 12/22/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simple one-liner similar to Geir's No other ASF project or podling in the architecture space is based on Jini is enough I think...

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 12/23/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really fail to see how all that is such a big deal. We're talking an additional 2 sentences I think it's a concern because the precedent puts the podling on the defensive and in the mind set of oh, if there's a competing project, we

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Dec 23, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 12/23/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really fail to see how all that is such a big deal. We're talking an additional 2 sentences I think it's a concern because the precedent puts the podling on the defensive and in

RE: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: We have lots of competing proposals and projects all across the ASF. And, many of them don't communicate for extremely petty and personal reasons; some don't communicate because they disagree on the technical direction. While they are within the Incubator, I'd prefer

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 12/23/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While they are within the Incubator, I'd prefer to see the extremely petty reasons reduced. And, I'd like a pony, too. =P -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-23 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 12/23/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While they are within the Incubator, I'd prefer to see the extremely petty reasons reduced. And, I'd like a pony, too. =P -- justin Did you ask Santa? :) --

Competing projects was Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-22 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 12/22/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A simple one-liner similar to Geir's No other ASF project or podling in the architecture space is based on Jini is enough I think... This is getting off-topic, but really why do we care? We have lots of competing proposals and projects all