Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-04 Thread Evan Hughes
Slack is more stable than hipchat, some of the infra staff have had difficulties with new versions of the desktop client breaking. On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 at 21:04 Wade Chandler wrote: > Personally I tried gitter as GitHub was to come on-site at work, and > planned to use

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-04 Thread Wade Chandler
Personally I tried gitter as GitHub was to come on-site at work, and planned to use it, and the experience was quite horrible. Look at its app reviews; I tend to agree with the low ones which get into its UX and usability. Even creating a room or finding existing groups didn't seem to work well

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-04 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
I think for external chats we should rather recommend Gitter, which has open rooms (anonymous lurking allowed) and "unlimited" searchable logs (and unlimited number of users) and don't require workarounds with a sign up bot. We did the same for Taverna, we tried an IRC chat, but its synchronous

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Wade Chandler
For the NetBeans community we had been using IRC, but then setup Slack, and it has seen an uptick over IRC which per logging and notifications had been harder to support and stay connected. We setup a sign up bot at https://netbeans.signup.team, and we also have a chat room hooked/bridged to our

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > Infra recently started leveraging hipchat. A few PMCs have made use of > it. I was wondering, would it be beneficial to anyone if we setup an > incubator room in hipchat? How about just promoting the #asf IRC

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread John D. Ament
I'm also thinking of it as a Q area, quick help, or quick discussions. Not decision making, any decision making should be copied back to the list. John On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 8:31 AM Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Emilian Bold

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Emilian Bold wrote: > So by default a HipChat conversation would be equivalent to using private@ > except when somebody manually activates recording which produces a wiki > page with no email notification whatsoever? That is how I

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Emilian Bold
So by default a HipChat conversation would be equivalent to using private@ except when somebody manually activates recording which produces a wiki page with no email notification whatsoever? --emi On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > On Thu,

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: > Would hipchat be logged somewhere? > > Is it possible to be at least some weekly digest email? That might be possible. See INFRA-12328. Jochen -- The next time you hear: "Don't reinvent the wheel!"

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Emilian Bold
Would hipchat be logged somewhere? Is it possible to be at least some weekly digest email? Pe joi, 3 noiembrie 2016, John D. Ament a scris: > All, > > Infra recently started leveraging hipchat. A few PMCs have made use of > it. I was wondering, would it be beneficial

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
For discussion yes, but I meant more for quick help like account creation, detail/form of the report, etc. Regards JB On 11/03/2016 08:19 AM, Mike Jumper wrote: On Nov 3, 2016 00:02, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" wrote: Hi John, it sounds like a good idea. I would allow

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: > ...Remember: > "If it didn't happen on the mailing list, it didn't happen" ... Yes. IMO chat channels can be fine at the "coffee machine discussion" level, anything more substantial must be discussed here. -Bertrand

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Stian Soiland-Reyes
I think it sounds good with a chat for more practical questions, like "How can I add userX to systemY on our infrastructure..?", but not for policy or release questions. And if there is no reply on the chat, then send an email anyway. A chat can also be welcoming for new potential podlings to ask

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Evan Hughes
@mike Official content does need to be on the mailing list but small discussions could be made on the hipchat channel. ~ Evan On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 at 17:19 Mike Jumper wrote: > On Nov 3, 2016 00:02, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" wrote: > > > > Hi John, > >

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Mike Jumper
On Nov 3, 2016 00:02, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" wrote: > > Hi John, > > it sounds like a good idea. I would allow "direct" communication between the podling guys and the mentors/shepherd (to discuss release or report content). > Wouldn't release/content discussion be best

Re: Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-03 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré
Hi John, it sounds like a good idea. I would allow "direct" communication between the podling guys and the mentors/shepherd (to discuss release or report content). Regards JB On 11/02/2016 11:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote: All, Infra recently started leveraging hipchat. A few PMCs have made

Incubator chat on Hipchat?

2016-11-02 Thread John D. Ament
All, Infra recently started leveraging hipchat. A few PMCs have made use of it. I was wondering, would it be beneficial to anyone if we setup an incubator room in hipchat? John