Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread David Nalley
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > What we really need for podlings is a "bill of > rights" towards what they can expect of their > mentors, because too few of them actually are > willing to question the participation of the > people who signed up to mentor them and that's > n

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity On 15 Jun 2013 16:04, "Alan Cabrera" wrote: > > On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Upayavira wrote: > > > I think there's merit in the idea of multiple, smaller incubators, so > > long as it is set up in a way that doesn't involve prosp

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
of disempowerment we too > often dish out. > > From: Alan Cabrera > To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Joe Schaef

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
haefer >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:29 AM >Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > >On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> What we really need for podlings is a "bill of >> rights" towards what they can expect

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 15, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > What we really need for podlings is a "bill of > rights" towards what they can expect of their > mentors, because too few of them actually are > willing to question the participation of the > people who signed up to mentor them and that's > not h

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever would still set policy and provide > community best practice guidance. But then separate mailing lists/groups > would provide actual oversight of podlings (incoming, mentoring, graduating). > These

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
___ > From: Alan Cabrera >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:04 AM >Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > > >On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Upayavira wrote: > >> I think there's merit in the i

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:16 AM, Upayavira wrote: > I think there's merit in the idea of multiple, smaller incubators, so > long as it is set up in a way that doesn't involve prospective podlings > playing the incubators against each other. Can you provide detail on what you mean by "prospective po

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Joe Schaefer
27;t ever learn from our past mistakes. > > From: Upayavira >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 10:16 AM >Subject: Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology? > > >I think there's merit in the id

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Upayavira
I think there's merit in the idea of multiple, smaller incubators, so long as it is set up in a way that doesn't involve prospective podlings playing the incubators against each other. Smaller groups, with smaller membership, gives the chance of a greater sense of ownership and identification, whi

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 6/14/2013 8:25 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: ... Do we really want jakarta@i.a.o or hadoop@i.a.o? ... ROTFLOL! But the Jakarta project was so fun! - Shane - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For ad

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-15 Thread Ross Gardler
I proposed this a year or so ago. It was fairly soundly rejected for a number of reasons, the two I recall (because I felt they had significant merit) were: a) adds additional hierarchy b) impossible to decide where a project best fits These two things together give the potential for silos. I do

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Shane, On Jun 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the > concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, > based on technology areas? > > I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever w

Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

2013-06-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, based on technology areas? I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever would still set policy and provide community best practice guidance. B