Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-30 Thread Greg Stein
Yeah... kind of hard for me to vote while I was on vacation last week. Didn't happen, but that is not a problem. As Justin notes, our job is to *mentor* ... that doesn't mean we are obligated to vote. Voting on a release implies a large commitment to downloading the tarball, building, deploying,

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-30 Thread Myrle Krantz
As a podling member, who's been observing here for a couple of months I have a question here: What are the principles the incubator uses to decide whether or not to accept a podling? I know there are a few questions that all podlings have to answer when creating their proposal, but I haven't

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: >> I just want to clarify here on the thread —- while I think in general there >> may be problems with too many podlings/inactive

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread P. Taylor Goetz
I will admit to being somewhat of a quiet mentor for Mynewt, particularly with respect to vetting releases. I have been monitoring the community and signing off on reports. I've often seen more experienced mentors vote on releases, and held back on voting based on trust in them. I'll try to do

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:10 PM, Sterling Hughes wrote: > I just want to clarify here on the thread —- while I think in general there > may be problems with too many podlings/inactive mentors, that is not an > issue we often face. Justin Mclean has voted on so many releases

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over time. I > guess it is time to take a look at whimsy.. :-) http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html Justin - To unsubscribe,

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 05/28/2016 05:31 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > And where is the sources for that? https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/ With regards, Daniel. > > On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > >> On 05/28/2016 05:25 AM, Niclas Hedhman

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
And where is the sources for that? On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 05/28/2016 05:25 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > Thanks Justin, > > as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over > time. I > > guess it is time to take a look

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 05/28/2016 05:25 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Thanks Justin, > as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over time. I > guess it is time to take a look at whimsy.. :-) Or projects.apache.org :) Since there's already an incubator chart there - should be easy to add another

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Thanks Justin, as always, snapshots in time is not as useful as trending data over time. I guess it is time to take a look at whimsy.. :-) Cheers On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > > An additional graph that would be super-interesting to

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > An additional graph that would be super-interesting to get is "Months in > Incubation" for the current podlings, plotted over time. Some of the data can be found here [1] (column B) Thanks, Justin 1. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Sterling Hughes
I just want to clarify here on the thread —- while I think in general there may be problems with too many podlings/inactive mentors, that is not an issue we often face. It is simply that this release came at a time when some of our mentors were busy, and we want to get a release out the door—

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:05 PM, John D. Ament wrote: > I can agree that there's an issue with the overall number of podlings > around. However, I don't agree with telling a podling that the IPMC isn't > going to look at your vote and that your mentors should do that.

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread John D. Ament
I can agree that there's an issue with the overall number of podlings around. However, I don't agree with telling a podling that the IPMC isn't going to look at your vote and that your mentors should do that. The funny thing though, MyNewt has more than the recommended 3 mentors, yet this is

Re: Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > I respectfully disagree... One of the main reasons we went from 1 to 3 > recommended mentors, way back in the days, was that those 3 would be the > primary people to ping for binding votes, without limiting the rest of

Number of projects in Incubation [was: [VOTE] Release Apache Mynewt 0.9.0-incubating-rc1]

2016-05-27 Thread Niclas Hedhman
I respectfully disagree... One of the main reasons we went from 1 to 3 recommended mentors, way back in the days, was that those 3 would be the primary people to ping for binding votes, without limiting the rest of the IPMC to do so. If that is no longer the consensus, then we need to look at the