Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-19 Thread Dave Fisher
The qt discussion was a community process during incubation. It was not known in advance. This process Marvin describes would not have caught the issue. The community wanted to find a way more slowly and focus on code efforts. When asked to help slow the discussion someone heated it up instead.

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-18 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Peter Kelly wrote: > The big takeaway from my experience, in terms of suggestions, is to make it > *very* clear on both the incubator website, and impressed upon anyone > considering joining incubator, exactly what can and cannot be done in within > the context of

RE: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
ssage- > From: Rob Vesse [mailto:rve...@dotnetrdf.org] > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 01:30 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia > podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private > list) &

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-18 Thread Rob Vesse
Just wanted to reply to one specific point: On 15/01/2016 14:55, "Peter Kelly" wrote: >I felt were unreasonable - the inability to accept pull requests from >anyone without first asking them to sign a CLA Who in particular told you this? I occasionally see communities operating under this misg

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Danese Cooper wrote: > >> It is true that the ASF and the FSF have historically been religiously >> incompatible on the subject of licensing combinatorics. As I usually >> explain to my clients, the worst case

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Alex Harui wrote: >>The ticking time bomb, as we discovered several months in, was the >>disconcertingly-named “Category X list”, described at >>http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html (under "Which licenses may not >>be included within apache products?”). This l

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-16 Thread Peter Kelly
> On 16 Jan 2016, at 12:32 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > > Probably too late, but some comments in-line. > > On 1/15/16, 6:55 AM, "Peter Kelly" wrote: >> >> However, one important factor which really killed things for us was the >> inability to use Qt. >> >> The desktop app was the main priority,

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-15 Thread Ted Dunning
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Danese Cooper wrote: > It is true that the ASF and the FSF have historically been religiously > incompatible on the subject of licensing combinatorics. As I usually > explain to my clients, the worst case scenario for the FSF is that code > become unfree (in the n

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-15 Thread Danese Cooper
One nit with this discussion. It's not true that GPL says it's not okay to make money. If it were then RedHat couldn't exist. It is true that the ASF and the FSF have historically been religiously incompatible on the subject of licensing combinatorics. As I usually explain to my clients, the w

RE: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
anuary 15, 2016 09:32 > To: general@incubator.apache.org; d...@corinthia.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia > podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private > list) > > Probably too late, but some com

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-15 Thread Alex Harui
Probably too late, but some comments in-line. On 1/15/16, 6:55 AM, "Peter Kelly" wrote: > >However, one important factor which really killed things for us was the >inability to use Qt. > >The desktop app was the main priority, however. > >To do a cross-platform desktop app, and to do it properly,

Re: Post mortem request for the handling of the Corinthia podling (was Re: FYI, I have subscribed to this list and to your private list)

2016-01-15 Thread Peter Kelly
> On 9 Jan 2016, at 5:48 AM, Slow Joe wrote: > >> Forming a podling is difficult as if often starts with a team that >> hasn't necessarily chosen to work together. I bet the situation > would >> have been very different if you guys had been able to meet in > >> person, > >> but in email that's