RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
I'm really worried about the growing meme that RAT is solving the IP management problem. It is not a solution, it is merely a tool that is useful for a very specific use case. All it does is do a pattern match for an Apache licence header in a bunch of files. It's really useful for checking

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
Ross, while I understand the All it does part I don't get the dangerous part. I think noone has ever announced RAT as a solution. It is a helper tool. I think the recommendation to use RAT (for what it offers) is just plainly right. Nothing more - nothing less. Jochen On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: Ross, while I understand the All it does part I don't get the dangerous part. I think noone has ever announced RAT as a solution. It is a helper tool. I think the recommendation to use RAT (for what it offers)

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2010-08-17, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Ross, while I understand the All it does part I don't get the dangerous part. It becomes dangerous if people start to believe it did more than scan for licenses. Stefan - To unsubscribe,

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 10:15, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Ross, while I understand the All it does part I don't get the dangerous part. There have been a number of people who have stated things like (paraphrasing) IP management issues have largely gone away now we have RAT. I'm sure the statements are not

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Ross Gardler
On 17/08/2010 10:45, Stefan Bodewig wrote: On 2010-08-17, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: Ross, while I understand the All it does part I don't get the dangerous part. It becomes dangerous if people start to believe it did more than scan for licenses. More specifically scan for *only* Apache

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Stuart Monteith
Hi, I understand the fear. With any tool like that and, indeed, process, it is all too common to go through the motions and ignore the spirit of why it was being done in the first place. When preparing a release I found it necessary to wade through the available documentation to find out

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Stuart Monteith stuk...@stoo.me.uk wrote: If I am to offer a suggestion, I would suggest that there be a clear release process documented in a single location, with the rational for each of its steps included. Is this what you'd want?

Re: RAT can be dangerous

2010-08-17 Thread Stuart Monteith
Thanks - I think it's my crusty memory - the problems I had was determining precisely what to do with generating keys, etc., which was just a part of all this. Martijn Dashorst wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Stuart Monteithstuk...@stoo.me.uk wrote: If I am to offer a