Re: OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 05/06/2011 Nick Kew wrote: > On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:25, eric b wrote: > > Apologies, the most up to date information is here : > > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/External/Modules > Thanks for that. > Looks like there's some LGPL stuff but no strong copyleft. Most dictionaries are missin

Re: OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread Nick Kew
On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:25, eric b wrote: > Apologies, the most up to date information is here : > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/External/Modules (the previous link > looks outdated) Thanks for that. Looks like there's some LGPL stuff but no strong copyleft. -- Nick Kew Available

Re: OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread eric b
Le 5 juin 11 à 10:09, eric b a écrit : Hi, First over all, I'm not a native speaker, but I think I can answer. Apologies if I'm off topic, this thread is extremely difficult to follow. Le 5 juin 11 à 09:41, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : I was thinking about binary-only components such a

OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread eric b
Hi, First over all, I'm not a native speaker, but I think I can answer. Apologies if I'm off topic, this thread is extremely difficult to follow. Le 5 juin 11 à 09:41, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : I was thinking about binary-only components such as a linker library or shared library tha

RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
'd need to have an alternative in place. Whistling in the dark here ... - Dennis -Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 23:22 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs

RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-04 Thread Greg Stein
On Jun 4, 2011 6:25 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: >... > 2. With regard to building distributions, binary libraries are terribly awkward unless Apache were to limit its OpenOffice project to a single platform and programming model. In contrast, LibreOffice is going full-up C++ and the Java depe

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Jim Jagielski
That is true. There is also the possibility that there are a set, possibly large, of knowledgeable developers who only want their work non-copyleft. And another set that really couldn't care one way or another. That's simply the nature of FOSS licenses. I develop and release code under all types o

RE: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
2011 15:50 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OO/LO License On 6/4/2011 11:58 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3c009001cc22e9$73f6cbe0$5be463a0$@acm.org%3e> > Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it shou

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Ian Lynch
Agreed. The main problem is if say the majority of knowledgeable developers only want their work licensed copyleft. On 4 Jun 2011 23:50, "Andrew Rist" wrote: On 6/4/2011 11:58 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it shoul... The code was used under multiple l

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Andrew Rist
On 6/4/2011 11:58 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it should be clear that all distributions of OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are under the LGPL3. It is also the case that contributors of code to LibreOffice are required to affirm that their contributions

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread robert_weir
Dave Fisher wrote on 06/04/2011 05:35:32 PM: > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> > >> Once licensing issues are understood then a way the two > communities might mutually cooperate becomes clear. And here it is > LO/

Re: RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-04 Thread Ian Lynch
tails to manage with regard to code provenance in order to pull this off, but it should work and managing code provenance is a good idea either way.] -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 14:36 To: general@incubator.ap

RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
der to pull this off, but it should work and managing code provenance is a good idea either way.] -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 14:36 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: OO/LO License [ ... ] Components and

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> Once licensing issues are understood then a way the two communities might >> mutually cooperate becomes clear. And here it is LO/TDF might contribute to >> Apache OO by providing portions of

Re: RE: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Ian Lynch
Maybe stop lurking :-) Your contributions will be valuable On 4 Jun 2011 22:06, "Manfred A. Reiter" wrote: sorry for last mail, mistake from a lurker ;-) ## Manfred

RE: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
sorry for last mail, mistake from a lurker ;-) ## Manfred

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Once licensing issues are understood then a way the two communities might > mutually cooperate becomes clear. And here it is LO/TDF might contribute to > Apache OO by providing portions of the LO codebase as MPL binary libraries. > > Sam, is

RE: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, June 04, 2011 11:59 To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: charles.h.sch...@gmail.com; 'Jochen Wiedmann' Subject: RE: OO/LO License Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it should be clear that all distributions of OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are under the LGPL3. It is also the

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: >> Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it should be clear that all >> distributions of OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are under the LGPL3. It is >> also the case that contributors of c

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it should be clear that all > distributions of OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are under the LGPL3.  It is > also the case that contributors of code to LibreOffice are required to affirm > that thei

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Jochen, 2011/6/4 Jochen Wiedmann > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > This, by the way, is the source of some of the irritation from TDF, who > went to a fair bit > > of trouble to accommodate IBM but have been represented otherwise on > Rob's blog and elsewhere. >

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > This, by the way, is the source of some of the irritation from TDF, who went > to a fair bit > of trouble to accommodate IBM but have been represented otherwise on Rob's > blog and elsewhere. And rightfully so, if your understanding is righ

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:09, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jochen Wiedmann > wrote: >> Excuse me for interrupting ... >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM, wrote: >> >>> LibreOffice uses a dual license LGPLv3/MPL. >> >> I've been reading MPL a few times in this

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: > Excuse me for interrupting ... > > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM,   wrote: > >> LibreOffice uses a dual license LGPLv3/MPL. > > I've been reading MPL a few times in this discussion. But neither > >    http://www.libreoffice.org/download/