Re: OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 05/06/2011 Nick Kew wrote: On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:25, eric b wrote: Apologies, the most up to date information is here : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/External/Modules Thanks for that. Looks like there's some LGPL stuff but no strong copyleft. Most dictionaries are missing from

RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Jun 4, 2011 6:25 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ... 2. With regard to building distributions, binary libraries are terribly awkward unless Apache were to limit its OpenOffice project to a single platform and programming model. In contrast, LibreOffice is going full-up

RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to have an alternative in place. Whistling in the dark here ... - Dennis -Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 23:22 To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0

OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread eric b
Hi, First over all, I'm not a native speaker, but I think I can answer. Apologies if I'm off topic, this thread is extremely difficult to follow. Le 5 juin 11 à 09:41, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : I was thinking about binary-only components such as a linker library or shared library

Re: OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)

2011-06-05 Thread eric b
Le 5 juin 11 à 10:09, eric b a écrit : Hi, First over all, I'm not a native speaker, but I think I can answer. Apologies if I'm off topic, this thread is extremely difficult to follow. Le 5 juin 11 à 09:41, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : I was thinking about binary-only components such

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: Excuse me for interrupting ... On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM,  robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: LibreOffice uses a dual license LGPLv3/MPL. I've been reading MPL a few times in this discussion. But neither    

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:09, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: Excuse me for interrupting ... On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: LibreOffice uses a dual license

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: This, by the way, is the source of some of the irritation from TDF, who went to a fair bit of trouble to accommodate IBM but have been represented otherwise on Rob's blog and elsewhere. And rightfully so, if your

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Jochen, 2011/6/4 Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: This, by the way, is the source of some of the irritation from TDF, who went to a fair bit of trouble to accommodate IBM but have been represented

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it should be clear that all distributions of OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are under the LGPL3.  It is also the case that contributors of code to LibreOffice are required

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it should be clear that all distributions of OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are under the LGPL3. It is also the case that

RE: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
, June 04, 2011 11:59 To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: charles.h.sch...@gmail.com; 'Jochen Wiedmann' Subject: RE: OO/LO License Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it should be clear that all distributions of OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice are under the LGPL3. It is also the case

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Once licensing issues are understood then a way the two communities might mutually cooperate becomes clear. And here it is LO/TDF might contribute to Apache OO by providing portions of the LO codebase as MPL binary

RE: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
sorry for last mail, mistake from a lurker ;-) ## Manfred

Re: RE: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Ian Lynch
Maybe stop lurking :-) Your contributions will be valuable On 4 Jun 2011 22:06, Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for last mail, mistake from a lurker ;-) ## Manfred

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 4, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Once licensing issues are understood then a way the two communities might mutually cooperate becomes clear. And here it is LO/TDF might contribute to Apache OO by

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Ian Lynch
Agreed. The main problem is if say the majority of knowledgeable developers only want their work licensed copyleft. On 4 Jun 2011 23:50, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: On 6/4/2011 11:58 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Just to un-muddy the waters a little, it shoul... The code was

Re: OO/LO License

2011-06-04 Thread Jim Jagielski
That is true. There is also the possibility that there are a set, possibly large, of knowledgeable developers who only want their work non-copyleft. And another set that really couldn't care one way or another. That's simply the nature of FOSS licenses. I develop and release code under all types