Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Leo Simons wrote: On Feb 21, 2007, at 1:08 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: One thing that seems to have been forgotten is that an approved release must be in the form of SOURCE CODE and must be placed in the associated PMC's public distribution area under http://www.a

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread Leo Simons
On Feb 21, 2007, at 1:08 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote: One thing that seems to have been forgotten is that an approved release must be in the form of SOURCE CODE and must be placed in the associated PMC's public distribution area under http://www.apache.org/dist/ The second "must" there in tha

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: > > The question is whether or not an entity which is not an > official ASF "project" (a podling) can release code that is > an official release. IMO, the answer is NO SO ... anything the podling wants to consider for release belongs in incubator.a.o/dev/dist/podling/ (or a

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: > > The question is whether or not an entity which is not an > official ASF "project" (a podling) can release code that is > an official release. IMO, the answer is NO and that is > why the Incubator is, in fact, the "releasing" entity. So > YES, it is "official" since the Inc

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Feb 20, 2007, at 8:56 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 2/20/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The "associated PMC" would be the Incubator, and you might notice that there is not an incubator/ directory under those locations. As I understand it, the primary issue is that there

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
I guess, i am not in favor of blurring the lines. Is this a vote? thanks, -- dims On 2/21/07, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ignoring other parts of the thread, I'm strongly +1 to Incubator releases being treated as normal ASF releases at an infrastructure level. Both in terms of th

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-21 Thread Henri Yandell
Ignoring other parts of the thread, I'm strongly +1 to Incubator releases being treated as normal ASF releases at an infrastructure level. Both in terms of the distributions going into /www/www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ and the maven2 incubator repository being closed down and merged into the o

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-20 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: > On Feb 20, 2007, at 7:11 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > >> Yes - it merits discussion, but what's happened several times with the >> usual push-pull of the discussion here is that half the podlings race >> off to the left while half of them are still on the right, and i

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-20 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Feb 20, 2007, at 7:11 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: In other words, we agree there is probably an export issue to resolve, however /dist/incubator/ does not exist for a reason, and it would be helpful if you ran changes to the incubator past the incubator PMC before confusing our podlings w

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-20 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
In other words, we agree there is probably an export issue to resolve, however /dist/incubator/ does not exist for a reason, and it would be helpful if you ran changes to the incubator past the incubator PMC before confusing our podlings with contradictory information. Yes - it merits discussion,

Re: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-20 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 2/20/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The "associated PMC" would be the Incubator, and you might notice that there is not an incubator/ directory under those locations. As I understand it, the primary issue is that there has been a lot of emphasis to say that Incubator releases

RE: incubator releases need to be under www.a.o/dist/incubator

2007-02-20 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Roy, > At various times, various people have stated various rather > incongruent descriptions of what has to be done when a podling > performs a release > One thing that seems to have been forgotten is that an approved > release must be in the form of SOURCE CODE and must be placed > in the assoc