Re: please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Ted Husted
On 3/28/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why not making it a *rule* to change the subject of podling release votes, where things come up, that needs to be fixed. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-revote -T. --

Re: please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
for the first release, perhaps we could arrange an audit rather than a conventional release vote sounds good ! - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ma

Re: Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ted Leung wrote: > > In order for Heraldry to continue > there needs to be enough of the code committers who want to continue, +1 > and 3 or 4 is a little small in my eyes. I really do not want to be > back in this situation again in a few months. 3 actual committers is *fine*. (3 proposed co

Re: please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 3/28/07, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On 3/28/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really appreciate Robert's comments, but I also see your point. > Why not making it a *rule* to change the subject of podling release > votes, where things come up, that needs

Re: please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Ted Leung
This was my bad. I wrote the subject line first and then the content ended up not matching. Ted On Mar 28, 2007, at 3:29 AM, Leo Simons wrote: Oi! On Mar 21, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Ted Leung wrote: So I'm bringing this back to the Incubator PMC for discussion and ultimately, a vote. I would

Re: Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-28 Thread Ted Leung
On Mar 28, 2007, at 8:06 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Gav wrote: Would you add those four, pending CLAs as necessary? So a starting Community of 7, again pending CLAs. More like a community of 4. A 'community' includes those on the dev list, not just committers/ pmc. True enough. :-)

RE: Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Gav wrote: > > > Would you add those four, pending CLAs as necessary? So a starting > > > Community of 7, again pending CLAs. > > More like a community of 4. > A 'community' includes those on the dev list, not just committers/pmc. True enough. :-) > I have offered several times to help where

Re: please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 3/28/07, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 21, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Ted Leung wrote: > So I'm bringing this back to the Incubator PMC for discussion and > ultimately, a vote. I would really appreciate it if we could all try to keep [VOTE] tags in subject lines restricted to thing

Re: please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On 3/28/07, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really appreciate Robert's comments, but I also see your point. Why not making it a *rule* to change the subject of podling release votes, where things come up, that needs to be fixed. Isn't that the perfect cause for a -1 vote w

Re: please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hey Leo, I agree. PPS: I have a similar problem with all the podling release [VOTE]s. Often there's something to fix, and that has already been flagged (more often than not by Robert) by the time I have the time to investigate. I really appreciate Robert's comments, but I also see your point.

please keep [VOTE] for [VOTE]s (was: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL)

2007-03-28 Thread Leo Simons
Oi! On Mar 21, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Ted Leung wrote: So I'm bringing this back to the Incubator PMC for discussion and ultimately, a vote. I would really appreciate it if we could all try to keep [VOTE] tags in subject lines restricted to things that actually need a vote (e.g. yes/no/+1/-1)

RE: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-28 Thread Gav....
> -Original Message- > From: Ted Leung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2007 1:22 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL > > > On Mar 26, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > &

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-27 Thread Ted Leung
On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:13 PM, J Aaron Farr wrote: Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I would also point out that I am currently the only mentor for Heraldry, and I'm not willing to continue without some other people jumping in to help. When I originally agreed to mentor Heraldry, I did it

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-27 Thread Ted Leung
On Mar 26, 2007, at 3:39 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ted, Thanks for clarifying. So 4 and perhps 3 more to watch. Sounds fine to me. Is Paul Q willing to come back now? I've not heard a peep from Paul. I've only heard through other people that he was coming back. But Aaron is willing

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread J Aaron Farr
Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would also point out that I am currently the only mentor for > Heraldry, and I'm not willing to continue without some other people > jumping in to help. When I originally agreed to mentor Heraldry, I > did it thinking that I was one of three mentors. I'm

RE: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted, Thanks for clarifying. So 4 and perhps 3 more to watch. Sounds fine to me. Is Paul Q willing to come back now? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 3/26/07, Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...I"d like to hear some opinions from the rest of the Incubator PMC... Without having studied the whole story in detail, I agree that restarting with only 4 people whom you feel have the potential to make it happen is safer than a larger list of

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread Ted Leung
On Mar 26, 2007, at 7:42 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Ted, The list of David Recordon (recordond) Johannes Ernst (jernst) Matt Pelletier (mattpelletier) is a start. I'll also suggest that they be the core of the revised PPMC for Heraldry. However ... Other committers to Ruby PIP are:

RE: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread Granqvist, Hans
I should not be on the Heraldry ACL since I am not (never been) involved in the project. Thanks! Hans > -Original Message- > From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 7:42 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: [VOTE] R

RE: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted, The list of David Recordon (recordond) Johannes Ernst (jernst) Matt Pelletier (mattpelletier) is a start. I'll also suggest that they be the core of the revised PPMC for Heraldry. However ... > Other committers to Ruby PIP are: > Dan Quellhorst > Hans Granqvist > Gary Krall > Trot

RE: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-26 Thread Noel J. Bergman
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > I've offered to serve on a re-composed Heraldry project, and simply stepped > back for a few weeks for Noel to reorganize the project as he sees fit. *I* am not reorganizing anything. The project has been told to organize around whomever wants to participate under

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-23 Thread Ted Leung
On Mar 21, 2007, at 4:19 AM, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, On 3/21/07, Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would also point out that I am currently the only mentor for Heraldry, and I'm not willing to continue without some other people jumping in to help. When I originally agreed to mentor Heral

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Yoav Shapira wrote: > Hi, > > On 3/21/07, Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I would also point out that I am currently the only mentor for >> Heraldry, and I'm not willing to continue without some other people >> jumping in to help. When I originally agreed to mentor Heraldry, I >> did it t

Re: [VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-21 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, On 3/21/07, Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would also point out that I am currently the only mentor for Heraldry, and I'm not willing to continue without some other people jumping in to help. When I originally agreed to mentor Heraldry, I did it thinking that I was one of three ment

[VOTE] Revised Heraldry commit ACL

2007-03-20 Thread Ted Leung
Hi folks, The Incubator PMC has asked the Heraldry mentors for a new commit ACL for the project, and the deadline set by the Incubator PMC (March 19th) has now passed.Those interested in the full discussion on Noel's request can follow the thread starting here: