Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-31 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for the clarification Roy. On 31 October 2012 05:29, Roy T. Fielding field...@gbiv.com wrote: [generic incubator comments -- nothing specific to CloudStack] ... On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Noah Slater wrote: On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote:

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-30 Thread Roy T. Fielding
[generic incubator comments -- nothing specific to CloudStack] ... On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Noah Slater wrote: On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: But regardless, you couldn't. A

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: ...We're just voting on our first release, and I spotted this file in the root of the source: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cloudstack.git;a=blob_plain;f=waf;hb=HEAD It seems to be a sort of hybrid

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Florian Holeczek
Hi Noah, We're just voting on our first release, and I spotted this file in the root of the source: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cloudstack.git;a=blob_plain;f=waf;hb=HEAD It seems to be a sort of hybrid source/binary file. Very strange. Can we ship this? it's

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Chip Childers
Hi all, I'm the RM for the release, so I wanted to provide some context to Noah's question. Some of this has already been mentioned on the project's vote thread, but I'll bring it up again here to see if there are any thoughts to help us decide if this is a blocker or not. At this point, I'm

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Florian Holeczek flor...@holeczek.de wrote: Hi Noah, We're just voting on our first release, and I spotted this file in the root of the source:

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one misconception. On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 10/29/12 3:39 PM, Noah Slater a écrit : Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one misconception. On 29 October 2012 13:21, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: I actually have more than enough votes right now to close the thread out on the project's dev

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: On 29 October 2012 14:48, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Thanks for following up Chip. Though I do just want to clarify one

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
On 29 October 2012 15:13, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: I'll try to be more clear next time. I'm holding the vote open specifically because of this outstanding question, *regardless* of the current tally. That's what I was expressing. Understood. I suspected we were on

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Florian Holeczek flor...@holeczek.de wrote: Hi Noah, We're just voting on our first release, and

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: ...Waf is a packaging utility, used to create RPMs and DEBs. Work is currently ongoing to remove it (and it's use) from the project entirely... ...That will be several weeks of work (not days), which is

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
Nice summary Bertrand. On 29 October 2012 15:22, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Chip Childers chip.child...@sungard.com wrote: ...Waf is a packaging utility, used to create RPMs and DEBs. Work is currently ongoing to remove it (and

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Benson Margulies
Bertrand, is a compressed archive of source a source or a binary? On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: Nice summary Bertrand. On 29 October 2012 15:22, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.orgwrote: Hi, On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Chip Childers

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Bertrand, is a compressed archive of source a source or a binary? hehe...right, you said earlier in this thread that the file in question is actually just compressed source code, is that correct? If yes, it's just

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: So, it's no more good (or bad) than shipping a .tar.bz2 of some category A open source code (given the license). +1 From your description, this is different from a compiled object file, it's compressed source. No

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: So, it's no more good (or bad) than shipping a .tar.bz2 of some category A open source code (given the license). +1 From your

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: Bertrand, is a compressed archive of source a source or a binary? hehe...right, you said earlier in this thread that the file in

Re: Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-29 Thread Noah Slater
Thanks for investigating this, Chip. I am happy with us proceeding, but would caution us to think about addressing or documenting this in a later release. I'd say wait until tomorrow to see if anyone else objects then wrap up the vote. Let's ship this thing! On 29 October 2012 16:21, Chip

Shipping binary file in CloudStack release

2012-10-28 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, We're just voting on our first release, and I spotted this file in the root of the source: https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-cloudstack.git;a=blob_plain;f=waf;hb=HEAD It seems to be a sort of hybrid source/binary file. Very strange. Can we ship this? Thanks, -- NS