RE: The role of a mentor

some time. It *is* very time consuming if we are to do it right, especially at the start. Ross -Original Message- From: Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:56 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The role of a mentor I try to be more aware early

Re: The role of a mentor

: > > ...If you > > think of someone you view as a mentor, they didn't spend all their time > > looking over your shoulder. Instead you met with them from time to time > and > > discussed a topic that you were looking to find clarity on... > > That's how I see my r

Re: The role of a mentor

ng to find clarity on... That's how I see my role as a mentor - I try to become aware of where help is needed, but generally don't follow everything. For this I like the [mentors] subject line tag that some podlings use to raise the mentors attention on their de

Re: The role of a mentor

takes us full circle - if what we want are coaches, absent (burnt out?) mentors are no surprise at all. Hen On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:35 AM, <r...@gardler.org> wrote: > +1000 > > I've not been very active in the incubator for some time. I've > participated in these "role o

RE: The role of a mentor

he.org' <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: RE: The role of a mentor +1000 I've not been very active in the incubator for some time. I've participated in these "role of the mentor" conversations many times over the years. I wish I'd been able to make my contribution a

RE: The role of a mentor

+1000 I've not been very active in the incubator for some time. I've participated in these "role of the mentor" conversations many times over the years. I wish I'd been able to make my contribution as clear and accurate as Julian's contribution below... (applause) A good mentor *l

Re: The role of a mentor

+1 > On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Julian Hyde wrote: > > Has anyone here taught someone how to fish? (Or how to make cookies, or ski?) > > Mostly you just stand off, watching what they do. If you see them about to > screw up in a big way, step in. Occasionally, offer them

Re: The role of a mentor

Has anyone here taught someone how to fish? (Or how to make cookies, or ski?) Mostly you just stand off, watching what they do. If you see them about to screw up in a big way, step in. Occasionally, offer them hints for how they might do what they’re doing a little bit better. (Not too often,

Re: The role of a mentor

Hi +1, agree with JB points. Mentor mostly just focus on ASF policy and rules, then is ok. "Teach him how to fish", it is more important, so it would be better if mentors could provide some good example cases(role model) for them to learn, tell them how to find the solution from ASF website.

Re: The role of a mentor

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 12:54 AM, John D. Ament wrote: >...But what do podlings need from their mentors?... I see my main role as helping the podling figure out what are the few essential ASF rules and policies that they must follow, as well as helping them understand that

Re: The role of a mentor

ny, but > because it actually makes a lot of sense! > > > Some the interpretation of the mentor role also depends on whether oneself > is using the project as well. > There are projects (like NetBeans, ISIS) where I mainly help with/focus on > legal and infra stuff. > And

Re: The role of a mentor

understand and even actively support the way we run projects. People should not do it 'the Apache way' because it is some ceremony, but because it actually makes a lot of sense! Some the interpretation of the mentor role also depends on whether oneself is using the project as well. There are projects

Re: The role of a mentor

Hi John, for me it is close to what JB described: 1. be there when needed (how do I create a git repo? how do I ask a JIRA?Why do I need X?). Even documented, having somebody you can ask more directly is often valuable. 2. ensure the releases are legal (+ respect mandatory ASF rules + point

Re: The role of a mentor

Hi John, IMHO, a mentor is not necessary involved in the project technics/codebase (it's actually a bonus). As a mentor, I'm focusing: 1. Insure of the legal aspect of the project (ICLA/CCLA, SGA, ...) 2. Help around infra and release preparation according to Apache rules 3. Help to promote the

The role of a mentor

I've been following along the absent mentors discussion. But I'm curious, from both an IPMC member's perspective as well as a member of a podling, what roles do you see for a mentor? What are their responsibilities to the podling? We have a few things written down, and I'm not too interested in