Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Flavio Junqueira wrote on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 00:21:13 +0100: Thanks for your interest in the project. Here are my thoughts about the points raised. I'd like to hear from the PPMC how they plan to expand their dev community. I expect us to attract more developers by increasing

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:07:18 +0200: Flavio Junqueira wrote on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 00:21:13 +0100: Is there anything important I'm missing? (/me leaves this question for the rest of general@ to answer) ... as I think their answers will be more useful than mine. I'm

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, Thanks for the review and followup, Daniel! Flavio Junqueira wrote on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 00:21:13 +0100: Is there anything important I'm missing? I'm happy with your report for this month (with the note, as already raised by Daniel, that technical issues are not relevant to graduation).

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-14 Thread Flavio Junqueira
Hi Jukka, We can certainly provide the information you request. Do you want us to update the last report or to consider it for future reports? -Flavio On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, Thanks for the review and followup, Daniel! Flavio Junqueira wrote on Wed, Mar

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-14 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Flavio Junqueira f...@s4.io wrote: Hi Jukka, We can certainly provide the information you request. Cool, thanks! Do you want us to update the last report or to consider it for future reports? No need to rush unless you already have the info readily

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-14 Thread Flavio Junqueira
Let's leave it for the next report then, I probably have all information but spread across sources, so I don't have it ready. Thanks, -Flavio On Mar 14, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Flavio Junqueira f...@s4.io wrote: Hi Jukka, We can

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ping, waiting for a response from s4-dev@ folks. Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 16:19:27 +0200: Jukka Zitting wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 14:41:00 +0100: Just pick one from the list (ideally one that you aren't directly mentoring), read the submitted report (if one exists!)

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-13 Thread Patrick Hunt
+s4-dev@ On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:48 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Ping, waiting for a response from s4-dev@ folks. Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 16:19:27 +0200: Jukka Zitting wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 14:41:00 +0100: Just pick one from the list

Re: S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-13 Thread Flavio Junqueira
Thanks for your interest in the project. Here are my thoughts about the points raised. I'd like to hear from the PPMC how they plan to expand their dev community. I expect us to attract more developers by increasing awareness. We have given presentations about the project internally (at

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-10 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:30 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: And that seems understandable, however IMHO the lazer beam focus we now have on the quarterly reports doesn't necessarily help get better or active oversight, in fact it makes it even easier for mentors to just pop up

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-10 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: I know that prompted me to do a similar run-through on half of your list (I ran out of steam/time...I guess I'll start at the bottom next time) and I simply found nothing to add, but I did do much more overseeing by

S4 status (was: Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports)

2012-03-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jukka Zitting wrote on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 14:41:00 +0100: Just pick one from the list (ideally one that you aren't directly mentoring), read the submitted report (if one exists!) and compare it to the previous report (for most podlings that's the one from December [2]) and a quick browsing

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-08 Thread ant elder
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: While there was no clear single message, the overall impression I got was that the board expects the Incubator PMC to provide better and more active oversight on podlings. And that seems understandable, however IMHO

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-08 Thread Leo Simons
Hey hey, Jukka this is sounding so timid :). You know, I think I'll break rank and tell you what I really think. You may want to sit down first. You [1] did a *kick ass* job on the last report. Kick. Ass. [2]. Kapow! As well as spending the time to look through and digest it all beforehand

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-08 Thread Benson Margulies
Jukka's recent email and activity are precisely what I was hoping for when I joined the chorus of voices for new leadership. On this thread, I have a thought or two. Of the podlings I have known, most required very little supervision. The single largest exception has always been getting the first

Re: Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-06 Thread Doug Cutting
Jukka, This sounds like a great plan to me. Providing the board with a summary demonstrates that the IPMC has reviewed all of the podling reports and assessed the progress of each podling. Also including the full podling reports to the board both gives supporting evidence to the podling

Thoughts on Incubator board reports

2012-03-05 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, During the February board meeting there was a discussion about what the directors would like to see in Incubator reports. The feedback we got on this ranged from providing just an executive summary of all Incubator activity to doing that *and* including all the podling reports. While there