RE: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-- in reply to -- From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacre...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 01:28 To: Incubator General Subject: Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > ...Although many consider it best pract

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-23 Thread sebb
On 23 December 2014 at 09:27, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: >> ...Although many consider it best practice for release tarballs to be tied >> back >> to a specific version control identifier (including me), Apache release >> policy >> doe

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-23 Thread Ryan Blue
On 12/23/2014 01:27 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: ...Although many consider it best practice for release tarballs to be tied back to a specific version control identifier (including me), Apache release policy does not require it As

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > ...Although many consider it best practice for release tarballs to be tied > back > to a specific version control identifier (including me), Apache release policy > does not require it As we tried to say above, the timeline gets into

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Ryan Blue wrote: > Given that there is confusion on this, I think we should decide whether it > is required or not and update the docs to be more clear. Does that require a > vote? Although many consider it best practice for release tarballs to be tied back to a

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-22 Thread Ryan Blue
On 12/20/2014 04:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: ...Releases are the tarball(s) prepared by the release manager, not a pointer into the source control system Agreed. I also agree with Brane about the pointer into source code control

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > ...Releases are the tarball(s) prepared by the release manager, not a pointer > into the source control system Agreed. I also agree with Brane about the pointer into source code control system being useful for PMC members to check that

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-20 Thread Branko Čibej
On 20.12.2014 07:16, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > Tags are at best a convenience, and nothing else. But so are commit id, > since in the long-term, GIT may not prevail and the commit id is in effect > an internal artifact of Git itself, not the concept of version control > systems. Compare how commit nu

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-19 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Tags are at best a convenience, and nothing else. But so are commit id, since in the long-term, GIT may not prevail and the commit id is in effect an internal artifact of Git itself, not the concept of version control systems. Compare how commit numbers from Subversion are imported to Git repositor

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-19 Thread David Nalley
> > I recently found this confusing with the first parquet-format release. I > thought that both commit id and tag were optional, given that the actual > release candidate is a signed tarball (actually, the "necessary source code > to build the project" [1]). > Commit id is not optional. Tag is. T

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-19 Thread Ryan Blue
On 12/18/2014 05:58 AM, John D. Ament wrote: All, I was looking through the incubator site and I don't see anything definite. Whenever a podling goes for a vote, and they include a git tag in their vote message, it's typically asked to change to a commit id. It seems to me this is done for the

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-18 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Good point! On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 01:58PM, John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > I was looking through the incubator site and I don't see anything definite. > > Whenever a podling goes for a vote, and they include a git tag in their > vote message, it's typically asked to change to a commit id. It

RE: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 on including commit ID (or SVN revision number) along with any tag (or SVN tag/branch) for convenience. -Original Message- From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndam...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 05:58 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Votes for git repos - commit

Re: Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-18 Thread jan i
On Thursday, December 18, 2014, John D. Ament wrote: > All, > > I was looking through the incubator site and I don't see anything definite. > > Whenever a podling goes for a vote, and they include a git tag in their > vote message, it's typically asked to change to a commit id. It seems to > me

Votes for git repos - commit id vs tag

2014-12-18 Thread John D. Ament
All, I was looking through the incubator site and I don't see anything definite. Whenever a podling goes for a vote, and they include a git tag in their vote message, it's typically asked to change to a commit id. It seems to me this is done for the reproducible builds concept. Tags are mutable