Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-19 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:50 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I disagree. I agree with the statement that All releases should be built from a tag. Worst case, you should make the tag by copying from the right version. That'd be a different rule; it's a tiny bit less

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-19 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Dec 19, 2007 5:43 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The second point is that there's a frequent tendency among incubator PMC members (and, err, most other human beings) to take their own opinions and experience about what constitutes reasonable practice and turn that into

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Leo Simons wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 11:50 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: The bottom line of release management in the ASF. All artifacts should be generated from the tagged SVN That just isn't the bottom line. It's only the bottom line in some projects. The point is that, on the

freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 16, 2007, at 5:24 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Marshall Schor wrote: We've put the LICENSE, NOTICES, and DISCLAIMERs into the top directory of the source (and binary) distribution(s), but didn't realize this also needs to be in the top level of the SVN tag, because we didn't know

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Luciano Resende
I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... All releases should be built from a tag. It is occasionally necessary to rebuild releases many years later. Tagging is cheap and easy when using

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Leo Simons
On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... While that's a good (and standard) practice, it's not quite a requirement. There can be good

Re: freedom to do sane release management

2007-12-18 Thread Thilo Goetz
Luciano Resende wrote: I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... All releases should be built from a tag. It is occasionally necessary to rebuild releases many years later. Tagging is cheap

RE: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Leo, I disagree. I agree with the statement that All releases should be built from a tag. Worst case, you should make the tag by copying from the right version. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Dec 18, 2007 2:55 PM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 18, 2007, at 3:24 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: I guess, from the Incubator release management guide, the requirement is that the release can be built from a tag, in a later point in time... While that's a good (and

Re: freedom to do sane release management (was: Approve release Apache UIMA...)

2007-12-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I disagree. I agree with the statement that All releases should be built from a tag. Worst case, you should make the tag by copying from the right version. The bottom line of release management in the ASF. All artifacts should be generated from the tagged SVN So