Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/6/01 2:05 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Last time I talked to Eduardo (the spec lead for JSP) he still had never >> written a real webapp with it. >> >> Lemmings! > > Isn't the JDK 1.4's logging API story similar? > > The guys did not pay that much attention to Ceki's

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Paulo Gaspar
> Last time I talked to Eduardo (the spec lead for JSP) he still had never > written a real webapp with it. > > Lemmings! Isn't the JDK 1.4's logging API story similar? The guys did not pay that much attention to Ceki's remarks, did they? And in terms of logging-in-Java, Ceki is THE authority,

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/5/01 11:27 PM, "Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a case in point, I would like to point out EJB CMP as an example of > "design-driven" technology which may very well look really stupid in > another few years, especially given its atrociously slow mutation rate. > If anyone wh

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
There seems to be some debate about whether or not that is really the case. At least it has Richard Monson-Haefel (the author of the O'Reilly EJB book) and Floyd Marinescu (from TheServerSide.com) confused, from this post to ejb-interest a couple months ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/ejb-intere