Re: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection

2002-02-02 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Shit. You'll be sourly missed. I guess we could not expect you to be the ugly duckling for ever. Best of luck with your new project. No doubt you'll do well. At 12:19 01.02.2002 -0800, you wrote: >Hey all, > >I just wanted to say that I'm not going to accept my Jakarta PMC nomination >and do n

Re: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-02 Thread James Strachan
I agree Jeff; though for such a smart container to work in an elegant way I'd prefer to develop the beans in a non-distributed manner and the smart container do the rest - distributing what it thinks makes sense - along the EOB / AltRMI lines. Not code to a server side componet API like EJB. Thou

Re: J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-02 Thread James Strachan
Hey Jeff - Original Message - From: "Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: James Strachan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > (*) One thing I've noticed with SOAP is that developers from the different > camps (web/MOM, CORBA/EJB) seem to see SOAP as different things. The > web/MOM > guys

Re: Jakarta PMC Nomination - Rejection

2002-02-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
good luck jon! you'll be missed... - robert On Friday, February 1, 2002, at 08:19 PM, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > Hey all, > > I just wanted to say that I'm not going to accept my Jakarta PMC > nomination > and do not want to be included in the voting for the next election. > > I have been inv

RE: [ot] J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-02 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 19:44, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 09:19, Alef Arendsen wrote: > > > So what's the score? DotNet is the new Microsoft initiative, and - > as > > always - they've perfectly imitated J2EE and have ha

RE: [ot] J2EE considered harmful

2002-02-02 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 09:19, Alef Arendsen wrote: > > So what's the score? DotNet is the new Microsoft initiative, and - as > always - they've perfectly imitated J2EE and have had a good look at all > J2EE's pitfalls. USed J2EE as a basis an