Re: [xdocs] Bug report (fwd)

2002-11-25 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:17:09 -0500 (EST) > > From: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

Re: [xdocs] Bug report (fwd)

2002-11-25 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Henri Yandell wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:17:09 -0500 (EST) > From: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jakarta General List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [xdocs] Bug report (fwd) > > > I originally mentioned t

[xdocs] Bug report (fwd)

2002-11-25 Thread Henri Yandell
I originally mentioned this on the Commons list, but as xdocs are used pretty heavily across Jakarta, I thought I'd try here too. I have a bug with the site generation. Either that or user-stupidity. I want a url in the xdoc file which has &'s in. If I just do it the html way, xdocs aren't hand

new "love guides" for "ide developers"

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I've committed and updated the "love guides" (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html) and added a new guide for netbeans. Thanks to Werner Punz of the Jetspeed project for that. I've also applied Brian Ewins patch to source/getinvolved. Thanks Brian! And there are some updates to

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Guys, lets try and stay on task. This isn't about the fact that my IDE can beat up your IDE, this is about giving "IDE Developers" (and we all know I'm not just talking about people who use IDEs I'm talking about people who NEED IDEs) a technical basis for working on Jakarta project. The

RE: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Jim Moore
Actually, some of the better ones (like IDEA) spit out ant files pretty much appropriate for use in a continuous integration tool like Cruise Control, and rocks for integrated JUnit functionality. (There's even a plug-in to help you create and maintain JUnit tests.) I haven't seen the library man

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Sam Ruby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the things I find most frustrating is dealing with "IDE Developers", meaning those "developers" who cut their teeth on Microsoft tools and never learned how to even set their PATH let alone their classpath. And why the heck should they? Any decent software wor

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
And why the heck should they? Any decent software worth it's salt doesn't make the user touch their classpath :) Yeah and IDE project files are AWESOME for automated builds, automated unit testing, gump etc! Its ALSO AWESOME when they stick multiple editions in their IDE libarary manager

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread dion
"Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 26/11/2002 02:12:07 AM: > > > > > >> > >> I'm not familiar enough with Maven's recent developments to write on > >> this. Perhaps you could contribute? I'm also not sure how many > >> projects there are that are currently using Maven, however, si

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread dion
Brian Ewins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/11/2002 11:03:32 PM: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > One of the things I find most frustrating is dealing with "IDE > > Developers", meaning those "developers" who cut their teeth on > > Microsoft tools and never learned how to even set their PATH let

[PATCH] Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Brian Ewins
Small changes to the 'getinvolved' and 'source' pages to make it easier to find info on contributing patches. Out of curiosity I did this completely within netbeans - it was a surprisingly simple and pleasant point-and-click experience. As for the Ant/Maven stuff, You might want to link to htt

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
... Pointers to documentation on build tool integration (Make/Ant/Maven) would definitely be useful for this document, +1 Baz. any specific suggestions on existing documentation which should be linked and introduced? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional co

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Daniel Rall wrote: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html A pointer to [X/]Emacs (and perhaps even vim) documentation would be useful. For IDEDevelopers? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional

RE: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Danny Angus
> If it wasn't for the users, we would not write software, won't we? But we're "the users" too, well some of us are. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Steven Noels
Lavandowska wrote: > --- Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 2002/11/24 12:26 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html >>> >>> Thanks for your help! >>> >>> -Andy >> >> Great document Andy. >> >> The more idio

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Great. I'll note this and include the link. A quick note : I'm using Eclipse and Tomcat, using the tomcat plugin (http://www.sysdeo.com/eclipse/tomcatPlugin.html) which make it easy to launch Tomcat 3.3.1, 4.0 or 4.1 from Eclipse. So there is no need for remote debugging via Eclipse, even i

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I'm not familiar enough with Maven's recent developments to write on this. Perhaps you could contribute? I'm also not sure how many projects there are that are currently using Maven, however, since this seems to be expanding I suspect it would be worthwhile. Ok, I'll try to get something

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Brian Ewins
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Actually using Ant (or Maven) from an IDE is easy enough. The tricky bit is getting the IDE to see the same classpath that the build script uses, for code completion and the like. I noticed the Maven to Eclipse integration for example tries to work by allowing you to

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Henri Gomez
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: One of the things I find most frustrating is dealing with "IDE Developers", meaning those "developers" who cut their teeth on Microsoft tools and never learned how to even set their PATH let alone their classpath. Rather than flame them and suggest "hey why don't you lea

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Lavandowska
--- Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2002/11/24 12:26 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > -Andy > > Great document Andy. > > The more idiot guides we have, the less i

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Actually using Ant (or Maven) from an IDE is easy enough. The tricky bit is getting the IDE to see the same classpath that the build script uses, for code completion and the like. I noticed the Maven to Eclipse integration for example tries to work by allowing you to generate a file containing

Re: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-25 Thread Brian Ewins
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: One of the things I find most frustrating is dealing with "IDE Developers", meaning those "developers" who cut their teeth on Microsoft tools and never learned how to even set their PATH let alone their classpath. Classpath? I remember those "However, the standard