Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-31 Thread Endre Stølsvik
On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro wrote: | Paying for an online agenda? document storage? e-wallet? This looks like the | e-commerce flop on steroids. This is the stuff that will succeed: Microsoft Passport. Mix in Activation Code. Then pay for My Services. And find yourself

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-31 Thread Chuck Murcko
We did, several years ago, at Trintech, for Visa, Mastercard, and Amex. They all use it. I think Brother International just adopted it. It even worked over WAP. 8^) But it is not getting all the hoopla that Passport is getting. And it was meant for users to select as a choice, from a website,

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-31 Thread James Strachan
PM Subject: Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers We did, several years ago, at Trintech, for Visa, Mastercard, and Amex. They all use it. I think Brother International just adopted it. It even worked over WAP. 8^) But it is not getting all the hoopla that Passport is getting

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-31 Thread Chuck Murcko
alternative to My Services. 'Open Services' anyone? :) James - Original Message - From: Chuck Murcko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers We did, several

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 10/31/01 1:57 PM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any plans to do an open source Java implementation of it? :) Then we could do an open alternative to My Services. 'Open Services' anyone? :) And maybe we could also hijack a top level domain, and put it as part of our new .COM

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-27 Thread Sam Ruby
Jonathan Reichhold wrote: If you develop software you need to test it against production boxes for compatibility. As soon as you want to test a program you need to pay Microsoft. Sure the development kit is free The development kit includes code that enables you to run your own server and

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-26 Thread Jonathan Reichhold
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers At 2:41 PM -0700 10/24/01, Jon Stevens wrote: Why am I not surprised? The funny thing is that even in this down economy and with all the free (better?) alternatives that are out

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-25 Thread James Strachan
Agreed. I've also been suprised by the recent rise in FUD thats coming our way... http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-10-2001/jw-1019-iw-netvsjava.html? A nice MS marketting strategy seems to be comparing .Net to EJBs rather than to Java (or Servlets or JAXM or whatnot). Hardly a fair or

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-25 Thread Matt Egyhazy
unfortunately, there is an entire class of developer that can only build software using microsoft tools. microsoft has moved into .edu territory and is giving away their tools for free. the kids are becoming attached to them. matt - Original Message - From: Jon Stevens [EMAIL

RE: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-25 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Title: RE: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers I don't understand the business model behind .NET. The article mentions developers paying to develop and deploy services, but also users paying to use them. Paying for an online agenda? document storage? e-wallet? This looks like the e

RE: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-25 Thread Steve Downey
While MS does a lot of things wrong, this isn't one of them. The $1000 fee is for a business to use Microsoft's .Net My Services, their web services, not for doing .NET development. -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 5:41

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-25 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why am I not surprised? The funny thing is that even in this down economy and with all the free (better?) alternatives that are out there, people will actually still pay for this stuff! We should put a