Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/6/01 2:05 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Last time I talked to Eduardo (the spec lead for JSP) he still had never >> written a real webapp with it. >> >> Lemmings! > > Isn't the JDK 1.4's logging API story similar? > > The guys did not pay that much attention to Ceki's

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Paulo Gaspar
> Last time I talked to Eduardo (the spec lead for JSP) he still had never > written a real webapp with it. > > Lemmings! Isn't the JDK 1.4's logging API story similar? The guys did not pay that much attention to Ceki's remarks, did they? And in terms of logging-in-Java, Ceki is THE authority,

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/5/01 11:27 PM, "Jeff Schnitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a case in point, I would like to point out EJB CMP as an example of > "design-driven" technology which may very well look really stupid in > another few years, especially given its atrociously slow mutation rate. > If anyone wh

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-06 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
m to be in order... blah. Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Richard Kirby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 11:54 PM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds > > > EJB2 does

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-05 Thread Richard Kirby
legacy systems. Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Schnitzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 06 December 2001 07:28 > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds > > As a case in point, I would like to point out EJB C

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-05 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
IL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:22 PM > To: 'Jakarta General List' > Subject: RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds > > > their products are still around, still evolving, but those > corporations > are long gone > > -Original Message

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-05 Thread Neville Burnell
their products are still around, still evolving, but those corporations are long gone -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2001 10:55 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds Neville Burnell <[EM

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2001-12-04 Thread GOMEZ Henri
What about Prime, Control Data or even DEC ?) >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:55 AM >To: Jakarta General List >Subject: Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds > > >Neville Burnell &l

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-03 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Neville Burnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > anyone remember Lotus Developments and WordPerfect Corporation ... they had > billions in the bank too Lotus == IBM WordPerfect == Corel. Still around... just different names :) -- Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PR

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-03 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>>And before last month, Enron seemed to be doing ok :) >> >yes, and unforgotten Commodore (Amiga,C64,...) yes, yes, I started computer with a Commodore Vic 20, a good old 6502 system with 3,5K of RAM :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mai

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-03 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
>From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >On 12/2/01 10:40 PM, "Neville Burnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >> anyone remember Lotus Developments and WordPerfect Corporation ... they >> had billions in the bank too >> > >And before last month, Enron seemed to be doing ok :) > y

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
t; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, 3 December 2001 11:46 AM > To: Jakarta General List > Subject: Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds > > > Jon Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > <http://groups.goo

RE: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Neville Burnell
anyone remember Lotus Developments and WordPerfect Corporation ... they had billions in the bank too -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 3 December 2001 11:46 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds Jon

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2001-12-02 Thread Kevin A. Burton
Jon Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Pine.LNX.4.33.0111301643170.1224-10%40penguin.transmeta.com> > > I wonder why he says Sun is doomed. I always wonder how people can say any of these companies are doomed.

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Kurt Schrader
The article at http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398 shows much of this thread, including why Linus thinks Sun is doomed. Kurt On Sunday, December 2, 2001, at 02:39 PM, Jon Stevens wrote: > Pine.LNX.4.33.0111301

commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Jon Stevens
I wonder why he says Sun is doomed. -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: