Re: Pax greater picture...

2007-10-09 Thread David Leangen
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 13:22 +0800, Lan Boon Ping wrote: > IMHO, I wish pax-family to provide all the tools, out of the box, to > build any kind of OSGI application. It should be targeted as a > platform. Nice! I think "OSGi platform" (or something along those lines) is a nice direction. We shou

Re: Pax greater picture...

2007-10-09 Thread Lan Boon Ping
IMHO, I wish pax-family to provide all the tools, out of the box, to build any kind of OSGI application. It should be targeted as a platform. Historically, we always think of JUnit for testing, logging-log4j, injection-Spring, ORM-Hibernate now plus this "OSGI-Pax family" in the furture..

RE: Pax greater picture...

2007-10-09 Thread David Leangen
> > - What do we have? What are we proud of? What about Pax Web? That's pretty cool! May be nice to have other compendium service impls as well, like for UserAdmin, so I don't have to use the suck-ass kf impl. Also, IIRC, the test framework Alin mentioned would kick ass. Cheers, Dave ___

RE: Pax greater picture...

2007-10-09 Thread David Leangen
> Ok. A good step; Vision Statement. > Note that I am focusing *purely* on Pax and not OPS4J at > large, which indeed house other interesting projects, albeit > less active at the moment. Ok, makes sense. So then, we should promote Pax ops4j's main effort and take a more top-down approach by st

Re: Pax greater picture...

2007-10-09 Thread Edward Yakop
> Gang, > > I think it is time to start looking at the greater picture of a unified Pax > long-term strategy. > > I am just kicking some ideas; > > - What do we have? What are we proud of? pax-confman, pax-construct, pax-logging, pax-runner, pax-wicket, pax-radman Proud of: pax-construct, pax-log

Re: Pax greater picture...

2007-10-09 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 09 October 2007 16:53, David Leangen wrote: > > I think it is time to start looking at the greater picture of a unified > > Pax long-term strategy. > > Well, I guess a long-term strategy should be made top-down, though you > seem to be advocating bottom-up. I don't know what I am advoca

Re: Pax greater picture...

2007-10-09 Thread David Leangen
> I think it is time to start looking at the greater picture of a unified Pax > long-term strategy. Well, I guess a long-term strategy should be made top-down, though you seem to be advocating bottom-up. First thing we need, even though it sounds "fluffy" is a kind of vision statement that we

Pax greater picture...

2007-10-08 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Gang, I think it is time to start looking at the greater picture of a unified Pax long-term strategy. I am just kicking some ideas; - What do we have? What are we proud of? - What bits are hiding in laboratory/ that fit a bigger picture, whole or in part? - What other vendor neutral bi