hi all,
I had created my home project under public https://build.tizen.org/ OBS
server around a month back. Now I could see that the project no longer
exists and even if I want to create a new one now, am not able to do so.
Its' throwing the below mentioned error:
"*You lack the permission to crea
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:21:08 +0300 Artem Bityutskiy
said:
> Carsten,
>
> I do agree with many of your points. But I really would like to refrain
> from diverging from the main point. Let me try to summarize like this.
>
> The team briefly explained why they would like to drop 32-bit support:
>
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:57:33 +0200 Jan-Simon Möller said:
> >
> > 64bit os's come with a major cost in memory footprint for pointers... it's
> > quite measurable. and that doesn't change the fact that:
> >
> > 1. arm is STILL 32bit and will be for a long time still. if tizen can't be
> > built
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:21:21 -0700 Thiago Macieira
said:
> On segunda-feira, 23 de setembro de 2013 08:53:47, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > imagine if all the engineers and executives etc. at bmw drove fords because
> > "bmw's can't manage to get us to the office without breaking down".
> >
> > we
On 09/23/2013 06:32 PM, Dale Anderson wrote:
> Theres also the fact 'mobile' is relative, given the current progress of
> phone/tablet hardware the need for a desktop is getting rapidly smaller
> even for a development env, given 64bit ARM is only just reaching consumer
> products and the likely ho
Theres also the fact 'mobile' is relative, given the current progress of
phone/tablet hardware the need for a desktop is getting rapidly smaller
even for a development env, given 64bit ARM is only just reaching consumer
products and the likely hood the mobile OS itself will be the development
envir
On segunda-feira, 23 de setembro de 2013 08:30:24, Clark, Joel wrote:
> Tizen is a general purpose OS. It is supposed to work on a wide variety of
> platforms like PC, TV, Automotive, tablet, phone, printer, camera. It has
> everything needed to be a general purpose OS. We do have developers who
Tizen is a general purpose OS. It is supposed to work on a wide variety of
platforms like PC, TV, Automotive, tablet, phone, printer, camera. It has
everything needed to be a general purpose OS. We do have developers who expect
to be able to build Tizen source on Tizen.
What do you think is
On segunda-feira, 23 de setembro de 2013 08:53:47, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> imagine if all the engineers and executives etc. at bmw drove fords because
> "bmw's can't manage to get us to the office without breaking down".
>
> we're not building specialized mining equipment. that won't get us to t
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 15:47 +0200, Jan-Simon Möller wrote:
> On Monday 23 September 2013 13:52:56 Jian-feng Ding wrote:
> > > if the problem is qemu on 32bit x86 emulating arm... mayhaps we should
> > > talk
> > > about that issue itself? i remember there being memory mapping
> > > conflicts/issues
>
> 64bit os's come with a major cost in memory footprint for pointers... it's
> quite measurable. and that doesn't change the fact that:
>
> 1. arm is STILL 32bit and will be for a long time still. if tizen can't be
> built ON an arm platform (which is 32bit) then it can't self-host on arm...
>
On Monday 23 September 2013 13:52:56 Jian-feng Ding wrote:
> > if the problem is qemu on 32bit x86 emulating arm... mayhaps we should
> > talk
> > about that issue itself? i remember there being memory mapping
> > conflicts/issues in doing misc binary emul, but i don't remember the
> > details anym
Carsten,
I do agree with many of your points. But I really would like to refrain
from diverging from the main point. Let me try to summarize like this.
The team briefly explained why they would like to drop 32-bit support:
a) They suspect there are no/very few users, and the survey is about
lear
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:46:48 +0300 Artem Bityutskiy
said:
> On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 19:08 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:42:34 +0300 Artem Bityutskiy
> > said:
> >
> > > Hi JF,
> > >
> > > there is a lot of confusion in this thread about what are you going to
> > > do
Make sure you updated survey includes clarification of the need for using Tizen
as the developer's host distro, making Tizen self-hosted, removing the need for
any other distro in the Tizen development process.
Regards
Joel
-Original Message-
From: general-boun...@lists.tizen.org [mail
Carsten and I are talking about using Tizen (including Tizen IVI full images
which include developer tools) as the developers working distro.
Regards
Joel
-Original Message-
From: general-boun...@lists.tizen.org [mailto:general-boun...@lists.tizen.org]
On Behalf Of Jian-feng Ding
Sent
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 19:08 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:42:34 +0300 Artem Bityutskiy
> said:
>
> > Hi JF,
> >
> > there is a lot of confusion in this thread about what are you going to
> > do and why.
> >
> > And frankly, the announcement is guilty in that. You did n
Why only PC?
-Original Message-
From: Ding, Jian-feng
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:55 PM
To: Clark, Joel
Cc: Kok, Auke-jan H; general@lists.tizen.org
Subject: Re: [Tizen General] Tizen platform development tools survey : dropping
32bit linux support
Joel,
Whenever we have an off
"In the long term", "just a matter of time" is fine. But today we have 32bit
Tizen running on 32bit devices, and it should be able to self-host building
Tizen.
Regards
Joel
-Original Message-
From: general-boun...@lists.tizen.org [mailto:general-boun...@lists.tizen.org]
On Behalf Of
Artem,
Thanks for your feedback and clarification. We will update the survey
questions to avoid confusions.
thanks
- jf.ding
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 12:42:34PM +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> Hi JF,
>
> there is a lot of confusion in this thread about what are you going to
> do and why.
>
> A
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:42:34 +0300 Artem Bityutskiy
said:
> Hi JF,
>
> there is a lot of confusion in this thread about what are you going to
> do and why.
>
> And frankly, the announcement is guilty in that. You did not carefully
> and nicely explain what exactly you do, and why exactly, and w
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:33:19 +0800 Jian-feng Ding
said:
> Carsten,
>
> All the embarrassings you are talking about just does not exist :)
>
> Current Tizen pkg build is self-hosted, both ARM and IA, both 32bit and
> 64bit.
>
> Current problem we are talking about is the developers' working dis
Hi JF,
there is a lot of confusion in this thread about what are you going to
do and why.
And frankly, the announcement is guilty in that. You did not carefully
and nicely explain what exactly you do, and why exactly, and which users
would be affected and how exactly.
I suggest you guys to come
Carsten,
All the embarrassings you are talking about just does not exist :)
Current Tizen pkg build is self-hosted, both ARM and IA, both 32bit and
64bit.
Current problem we are talking about is the developers' working distro, not
the Tizen runtime:)
thanks
- jf.ding
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 0
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:28:06 +0300 Leon Anavi said:
> Hi Daniel, Carsten, All,
>
> On 2013-09-23 03:46, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Carsten Haitzler
> >> imagine if all the engineers and executives etc. at bmw drove fords
> >> because
> >> "bmw's can't manage to
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