Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

> > Commonly (OS/2 and others, not WinNT) interrupts on SMP systems are handled > >by CPU0, due to a simplified software representation of the local APIC. This > >could give a temperature differential. > > > > > >I run irqbalance, and irq's are evenly spread on both CPU's. > >Same temperature diffe

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: Commonly (OS/2 and others, not WinNT) interrupts on SMP systems are handled by CPU0, due to a simplified software representation of the local APIC. This could give a temperature differential. I run irqbalance, and irq's are evenly spread on both CPU's. Same temperature differ

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

Commonly (OS/2 and others, not WinNT) interrupts on SMP systems are handled by CPU0, due to a simplified software representation of the local APIC. This could give a temperature differential. I run irqbalance, and irq's are evenly spread on both CPU's. Same temperature difference -- gentoo

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Installing 32 bit?

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 1:45 am, Nathan Brink wrote: > hey, about packages that dont work, how about the nvidia-net package? > > i cant use the integrated netword card in my motherboard with the > amd64 livecd. this isnt terribly bad, because i have a few extra pci > cards, but why would a com

[gentoo-amd64] XFCE 4.2?

Okay, I've been using Gentoo for a year and a half and I've found it to be the most reasonable and straightforward linux distribution I've tried. When it was time to get a new box, I decided to get the Athlon 64 and don't regret it one bit. Works great and the folks on this list and the forums on g

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Installing 32 bit?

hey, about packages that dont work, how about the nvidia-net package? i cant use the integrated netword card in my motherboard with the amd64 livecd. this isnt terribly bad, because i have a few extra pci cards, but why would a component integrated into an amd64 motherboard be masked? is there an

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Installing 32 bit?

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 12:19 am, Duncan wrote: > When multilib is fully in place, /lib, /usr/lib, etc, will all be their > 32-bit default. All the 64-bit stuff will be in the lib64 variants. Quite silly, I think. *Native* libs/bins should be in the default paths. Stick emulation/compat els

[gentoo-amd64] Re: Installing 32 bit?

William Tetrault posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:43:23 -0600: > On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:00 pm, Christian Bock wrote: >> I'm not happy with plain 64 Bit linux, because of things like w32codecs, >> wine and flash You can also encourage me to stay on 64

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

For the time being, thanks to all for the answers. > Bad thermal compund/interface material. > Flakey voltage reference in the thermal measuring circuit. > Flakey thermal diode on the cpu die. > Flakey motherboard - layer flexing that will eventually cause >trace breakage. > Maybe that's the

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Installing 32 bit?

On Tuesday 25 January 2005 01:00 pm, Christian Bock wrote: > I'm not happy with plain 64 Bit linux, because of things like w32codecs, > wine and flash You can also encourage me to stay on 64 bit, but you > gotta have good arguments. The good arguments consist of mentioning that the 64-bit AMD

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

Others have posted that they see different CPU temperatures with different motherboards. This leads me to believe that this is an artefact of the Linux kernel causing the different temperatures through running CPU0 harder. Previous emails have stated that CPU0 for various motherboards always giv

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

> What I want to explain is, that after a > long time after the first boot the temperature is almost higher than a long > time after the second boot. The temperature after the first boot is constant > for hours and days at "43 °C". But If I reboot after a few hours or days or > whenever, I get

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

Hi! I'm familiar with microprocessors and their behaviour. I know the reason why and when they get warm. Considering that dissipating heat from heatsink to the ambient air is a slow process, the measurements are taken when the CPU utilization is low for a long time. What I want to explain is, t

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Installing 32 bit?

Bob Slawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is probably what you want: > > > > Section 4.3 discusses how to setup a 32-bit chroot environment for > compiling 32-bit code to run in a 64-bit environment. You can just run you

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Overheating problem?

On Wednesday 12 January 2005 21:08, Kyle Liddell wrote: > It dies at 50C? My no load temp is 44C, and emerge'ing/playing games > pushes it up to near 60C. I've got a retail cpu so I'm using the stock > fan, no special cooling tricks. I've never had any overheat problems, > and it never goes abov

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Installing 32 bit?

This is probably what you want: Section 4.3 discusses how to setup a 32-bit chroot environment for compiling 32-bit code to run in a 64-bit environment. BobS On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 20:00 +0100, Christian Bock wrote: > What are the recommendations if I want to compile gentoo-x86 (as 32 b

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: x86 emulation and Flash

On Thursday 06 January 2005 17:34, Luke-Jr wrote: > > Another option would be for someone to write a wrapper that maps 32-bit x86 > plugins to any native arch (why not use qemu to support x86 plugins under > ppc/sparc/etc at the same time?). The simplest/best way I could think of to > do this would

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Compiling gcc-3.4.3 with -m64 no worky

On Wednesday 05 January 2005 00:24, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: > But, I don't see why it fails... perhaps the gcc build honors $CFLAGS > when building the stage2 compiler and support libraries (so it's doing > xgcc -c -m32 ${CFLAGS} comething.for.multilib.in.32.bit.c) Certainly does (hit me when try

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

When you cold boot a computer, the CPU generates a lot of heat and the heatsink can not disipate the heat so quickly (especially aluminum compared to copper) which is why you see the temperature so high. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:21:08 +0100, Bernhard Auzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm running

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Installing 32 bit?

On Tuesday 25 January 2005 1:33 pm, Christian Bock wrote: > I use konqueror for all my html needs... and I don't want to rely on > binarys, thats ugly and not really gentoo-ish... anyways I would be > thankful if someone could post me information about x86 install Just do a standard x86 install as

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Installing 32 bit?

I use konqueror for all my html needs... and I don't want to rely on binarys, thats ugly and not really gentoo-ish... anyways I would be thankful if someone could post me information about x86 install thanks > If you search on the gentoo forums, there's already a wine-bin ebuild > availa

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Installing 32 bit?

If you search on the gentoo forums, there's already a wine-bin ebuild available. With that, and sidenet, you can install Windows media player and have the first two items on your list. In addition, you can install firefox-bin and have all of it... On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 20:00 +0100, Christian Boc

[gentoo-amd64] Re: large temp difference on dual amd

Jason McGuiness posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:17:07 +: > "cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU?/throttling" reveals that for CPU1 it has > lots of throttling states, but CPU2 has none. Moreover "cat > /proc/acpi/processor/CPU?/info" shows that CPU1 can support th

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 06:53:41PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Brian Hall wrote: > > > To keep the fans from staying at max speed, you have to use the "init=0" > > parameter. Contents of my /etc/conf.d/lm_sensors: > > > > MODULE_0=i2c-viapro > > MODULE_1=i2c-isa > > #MODULE_2=w83627hf > > MODUL

[gentoo-amd64] Installing 32 bit?

What are the recommendations if I want to compile gentoo-x86 (as 32 bit system) what chost and what cflags shlould I use? I'm not happy with plain 64 Bit linux, because of things like w32codecs, wine and flash You can also encourage me to stay on 64 bit, but you gotta have good argument

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

Brian Hall wrote: > To keep the fans from staying at max speed, you have to use the "init=0" > parameter. Contents of my /etc/conf.d/lm_sensors: > > MODULE_0=i2c-viapro > MODULE_1=i2c-isa > #MODULE_2=w83627hf > MODULE_2=w83781d > MODULE_2_ARGS="init=0" Good! Thanks - that did it. I have MODULE_2=

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 06:26:07PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: > > > You just need gkrellm itself, sensors are built in. > > However, gkrellm can use its own recalculation of calibration (especially > > on voltages), so check it has scale 1.0 and offset 0.0. > > > > But y

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

Dmitri Pogosyan wrote: > You just need gkrellm itself, sensors are built in. > However, gkrellm can use its own recalculation of calibration (especially > on voltages), so check it has scale 1.0 and offset 0.0. > > But you need first to make lm_sensors to work > > 1) run sensors-detect to see whic

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

> mario kammerer wrote: > > > i wanted to ask if its normal that gkrellm shows about 45 degrees for > > CPU0 and 35 degrees for - i admit not strong working/used - CPU1. > > You prompted my curiosity and I installed lm-sensors and ksensors on my > dual-Opteron box (MSI K8T Master 2). Now I'd lik

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

> mario kammerer wrote: > > > i wanted to ask if its normal that gkrellm shows about 45 degrees for > > CPU0 and 35 degrees for - i admit not strong working/used - CPU1. > > You prompted my curiosity and I installed lm-sensors and ksensors on my > dual-Opteron box (MSI K8T Master 2). Now I'd lik

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

> Maybe it's a Problem with the calibration of the built in temperature sensor > of the amd64. I don't even know if that sensor could or must be calibrated. Spot on. Tyan does provide good sensors.conf for their boards, whereas MSI never even acknowledged that Linux even exists. Go Tyan! -- g

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

I'm running only an single amd64 (3000+, Winchester), on a MSI K8N Neo2 (NForce 3). My problem seems to be off-topic, but it's also a problem with the temperature of the cpu. When I'm starting my computer the first time after it was switched off a few hours, lm-sensors show me a relatively high

Re: [gentoo-amd64] large temp difference on dual amd

mario kammerer wrote: > i wanted to ask if its normal that gkrellm shows about 45 degrees for > CPU0 and 35 degrees for - i admit not strong working/used - CPU1. You prompted my curiosity and I installed lm-sensors and ksensors on my dual-Opteron box (MSI K8T Master 2). Now I'd like to find some