Re: [gentoo-amd64] Can I run a 32-bit kernel on my 64-bit kernel Gentoo machine?

2005-09-25 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 25 September 2005 20:47, John C. Shimek wrote: > You do a straight 32bit install on your amd64. That's beside the point. His question was whether he could just use a 32-bit kernel with a 64-bit userland (i.e. not having to recompile everything), the answer to which is no. > I don't kn

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Can I run a 32-bit kernel on my 64-bit kernel Gentoo machine?

2005-09-25 Thread John Myers
On Sunday 25 September 2005 19:45, Mark Knecht wrote: > However, I am completely unable to figure out for myself > if I can run a 32-bit kernel when everything else - glibc, xrog-x11, > qt, gnome, apps, etc., have been compiled as 64-bit capable. No. The kernel would boot, but it would panic when

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Can I run a 32-bit kernel on my 64-bit kernel Gentoo machine?

2005-09-25 Thread John C. Shimek
You do a straight 32bit install on your amd64. The amd64 is 32bit capable. I don't know whether to call your precessor an athlon or maybe a generic x86 processor. It is the same as running Windows 2000/XP on this processor. The OS thinks it has a 32bit CPU. Only you are limited to 32bit lim

[gentoo-amd64] Can I run a 32-bit kernel on my 64-bit kernel Gentoo machine?

2005-09-25 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, I'm very unclear about this idea. I've built my new AMD64 machine using the Gentoo 64-bit setup. The kernel I emerge uses the ~amd64 to I think I get a full 64-bit kernel. (Please excuse me on this issue. I'm a bit of a "follow instructions, not necessarily understand the whole thing" kind o

[gentoo-amd64] dispatch-conf confusion

2005-09-25 Thread Mark Creamer
Although I'm getting better at dealing with the post update configuration problems that always occur, I didn't know how to deal with these. This time around, about 25 or so files in /etc/pam.d need updating. My usual method is to look at the original and proposed updated file in kdiff3, as that

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Page size on the kernel

2005-09-25 Thread Florian D.
May I conclude that the AMD Athlon 64 3000 memory page size is 4k? short answer: yes but have a look at http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/24593.pdf esp. chapter 5. it´s a great read, if you are interested in this kind of stuff (and you´ll see that short ans

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 25 September 2005 22:38, Simon Strandman wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann skrev: > >On Sunday 25 September 2005 18:37, Sebastian Redl wrote: > > > > > > > >why do you thing, that it is the CFLAGS 'failing'? > >The CPU has sse, says cpuinfo, says test_pni, and the OPN says that it is > > an E

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Simon Strandman
Volker Armin Hemmann skrev: On Sunday 25 September 2005 18:37, Sebastian Redl wrote: why do you thing, that it is the CFLAGS 'failing'? The CPU has sse, says cpuinfo, says test_pni, and the OPN says that it is an E6 stepping - which has sse3. kwin - crash on a picture: kwin: X_CreatePixm

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 25 September 2005 18:37, Sebastian Redl wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >./test_pni > >cpuid(0) returns 1 (AuthenticAMD) > >cpuid(1) returns 00020ff2 0800 0001 078bfbff > >Result is 496498219533200 > > > > > >looks like cpuinfo is correct for me. > > In that case, your only

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Page size on the kernel

2005-09-25 Thread P.V.Anthony
Florian D. wrote: ad a&c: the XFS block size cannot be larger than the kernel memory page size. this size ist architecture dependent. 64k pages are only supported by ia64 and mips currently Thank you for the information. May I conclude that the AMD Athlon 64 3000 memory page size is 4k? Th

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Sebastian Redl
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ./test_pni cpuid(0) returns 1 (AuthenticAMD) cpuid(1) returns 00020ff2 0800 0001 078bfbff Result is 496498219533200 looks like cpuinfo is correct for me. In that case, your only choice to find failing CFLAGS is probably to remove them selectively. Seba

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi, On Sunday 25 September 2005 17:35, Sebastian Redl wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >On Sunday 25 September 2005 16:36, Duncan wrote: > > > > > >from the OPN it is an E6 venice - and from all the info I found, the > > Venice are the ones with SSE 3 > > cpuinfo is known to return bogus pni

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Sebastian Redl
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sunday 25 September 2005 16:36, Duncan wrote: from the OPN it is an E6 venice - and from all the info I found, the Venice are the ones with SSE 3 cpuinfo is known to return bogus pni support for Athlon64s. More information and a program to test for real sse

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 25 September 2005 16:36, Duncan wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann posted > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > > below, on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:36:46 +0200: > > Hi, > > > > I have a big kwin problem: > > alsmost everytime, when the kwallet password prompt pops up, kwin > > crashes. > > > > A ram

[gentoo-amd64] Re: kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Duncan
Volker Armin Hemmann posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:36:46 +0200: > Hi, > > I have a big kwin problem: > alsmost everytime, when the kwallet password prompt pops up, kwin crashes. > > A ram error should not be the culprit - I successfully compiled for hours

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Page size on the kernel

2005-09-25 Thread Florian D.
ad a&c: the XFS block size cannot be larger than the kernel memory page size. this size ist architecture dependent. 64k pages are only supported by ia64 and mips currently -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-amd64] kwin is crashy

2005-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi, I have a big kwin problem: alsmost everytime, when the kwallet password prompt pops up, kwin crashes. A ram error should not be the culprit - I successfully compiled for hours without segfaults and memtest86+ run for some time without errors. my CFLAGS look like this: CFLAGS="-march=k8 -O2

Re: [gentoo-amd64] sempron make options

2005-09-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sunday 25 September 2005 05:28, Drake Donahue wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Volker Armin Hemmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Cc: "William Tetrault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 9:11 PM > Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] sempron make options > > > On Sund