Re: [gentoo-amd64] I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Nadav Horesh wrote: I recently added 4GB to the existing 2GB I had. The BIOS and lshw recognize the memory configuration (2 dimm of 1G and 2 of 2G), but /prc/meminfo and a test program I ran recognize 3.2GB. My system configuration: cpu: core2 6600 chipset: DP965LT

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Mark Haney
Duncan wrote: Consider pointing PORTAGE_TMPDIR at a tmpfs. The idea is based on the fact that everything portage does in its tmpdir (/var/tmp by default) is temporary, erased as soon as it's done emerging that package. Since tmpfs uses swap backed memory, worst-case, it has to write

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Duncan wrote: Consider pointing PORTAGE_TMPDIR at a tmpfs. The idea is based on the fact that everything portage does in its tmpdir (/var/tmp by default) is temporary, erased as soon as it's done emerging that package. Since tmpfs uses swap

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Mark Haney
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Duncan wrote: Consider pointing PORTAGE_TMPDIR at a tmpfs. The idea is based on the fact that everything portage does in its tmpdir (/var/tmp by default) is temporary, erased as soon as it's done emerging that package.

Re: [gentoo-amd64] I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Faulkner
dumb question but i can't overlook the obvious, are you sure you are in AMD64 kernel? 2009/5/6 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Nadav Horesh wrote: I recently added 4GB to the existing 2GB I had. The BIOS and lshw recognize the memory configuration (2

Re: [gentoo-amd64] I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Faulkner
also, try running a memtest, or boot to a live CD distro. it could be in your kernel that is not allowing it to see above 3gb. Also, how many video cards you have installed?

Re: [gentoo-amd64] I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Wil Reichert
2009/5/6 Nadav Horesh nad...@visionsense.com: I recently added 4GB to the existing 2GB I had. The BIOS and lshw recognize the memory configuration (2 dimm of 1G and 2 of 2G), but /prc/meminfo and a test program I ran recognize 3.2GB. My system configuration: cpu: core2 6600 chipset:  

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Sami Näätänen
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 15:43:22 Mark Haney wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Duncan wrote: Consider pointing PORTAGE_TMPDIR at a tmpfs. The idea is based on the fact that everything portage does in its tmpdir (/var/tmp by default) is

[gentoo-amd64] Re: I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Duncan
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com posted 200905061337.38907.volkerar...@googlemail.com, excerpted below, on Wed, 06 May 2009 13:37:38 +0200: On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Nadav Horesh wrote: I recently added 4GB to the existing 2GB I had. The BIOS and lshw recognize the memory

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Branko Badrljica
Duncan wrote: Then, look at memory model. Here, with current kernels, I have only one option, Sparse, evidently limited by my choice of hardware (Processor family and/or Supported processor vendor options, higher on the page, I'd guess or perhaps probed from the BIOS). However with older

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Josh Sled
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com writes: On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Duncan, you talk about tmpfs and I'm suddenly interested in trying this out. My question is, how much space do you allocate for the tmpfs? I know it'll fall back to swap if I'm out of space

[gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Duncan
Sami Näätänen sn...@keijukammari.fi posted 200905061637.59424.sn...@keijukammari.fi, excerpted below, on Wed, 06 May 2009 16:37:59 +0300: On Wednesday 06 May 2009 15:43:22 Mark Haney wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Duncan wrote: Consider

[gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Duncan
Josh Sled js...@asynchronous.org posted 871vr2z3qb@phoenix.asynchronous.org, excerpted below, on Wed, 06 May 2009 10:49:00 -0400: I have tmpfs setup with no limit on a 3GB (4GB, really, but it's x86) no-swap system, and it works very well; OpenOffice and xulrunner-1.9 being the only

[gentoo-amd64] Re: I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Duncan
Branko Badrljica bran...@avtomatika.com posted 4a01a58c.2040...@avtomatika.com, excerpted below, on Wed, 06 May 2009 16:58:20 +0200: Duncan wrote: Then, look at memory model. Here, with current kernels, I have only one option, Sparse. However [some have the] Flat and Discontiguous options

[gentoo-amd64] Re: I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Ville Syrjälä
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 02:30:52PM +0300, Nadav Horesh wrote: I recently added 4GB to the existing 2GB I had. The BIOS and lshw recognize the memory configuration (2 dimm of 1G and 2 of 2G), but /prc/meminfo and a test program I ran recognize 3.2GB. My system configuration: cpu: core2

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Sami Näätänen
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 19:39:02 Duncan wrote: snip snip snip Third, tmpfs is useful in that it isn't restricted to physical memory, and can use swap as well, if there's memory pressure and something in tmpfs to swap out. Thus the worst case as mentioned earlier, that there's not enough

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Duncan wrote: Consider pointing PORTAGE_TMPDIR at a tmpfs. The idea is based on the fact that everything portage does in its tmpdir (/var/tmp by default) is temporary,

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Determine RAM configuration

2009-05-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Is there a way (with dmesg or something) to determine what my RAM configuration is without rebooting? I kinda need to know how my 1GB RAM is laid out so I can buy what I need. modprobe i2c_piix4 (or whatever your chipset driver is called) modprobe

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 06 Mai 2009, Branko Badrljica wrote: Duncan wrote: Then, look at memory model. Here, with current kernels, I have only one option, Sparse, evidently limited by my choice of hardware (Processor family and/or Supported processor vendor options, higher on the page, I'd guess or

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Branko Badrljica
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, duncan has some old hardware and likes to turn on a lot of superfluos options. Don't touch the numa stuff. Don't even enable it if you have 2cores or intel system. True. NUMA is for Non Uniform Memory Access systems or roughly the systems with several

Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 14:37:59 Sami Näätänen wrote: IMHO You shouldn't use tmpfs for the PM temp dir, until you can give that around 2GB, which shouldn't be more than half of your total memory. I can't endorse this. I have 4 GB physical RAM on this box, and I have this line in /etc/fstab:

[gentoo-amd64] Re: I can use only 3GB aout of install 6GB

2009-05-06 Thread Duncan
Branko Badrljica bran...@avtomatika.com posted 4a023791.6090...@avtomatika.com, excerpted below, on Thu, 07 May 2009 03:21:21 +0200: Dual and quadcore like i7 or Phenom is simple SMP where all nodes see memory through the same interface. Modern multisocket i7-based or Opteron is NUMA...

[gentoo-amd64] Re: upgrade an old system

2009-05-06 Thread Duncan
Sami Näätänen sn...@keijukammari.fi posted 200905070157.35952.sn...@keijukammari.fi, excerpted below, on Thu, 07 May 2009 01:57:35 +0300: The only thing that anoyingly invalidates my io buffers is listening music. Maybe I should cut the size of my Music library heavily. :) Unless you're