On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:28:20 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:
>NVidia release 295.33 last night. It's in portage this morning as
> of an hour or two ago. The release notes on NVidia's site don't
> specifically say anything about the 3.3 kernel but possibly it will
> fix your problems with vanilla-sou
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Frank Peters
> wrote:
>> Linux-3.3.0 is released and, as is my usual habit, I downloaded and compiled
>> the plain vanilla source.
>>
>
>>
>> Could this be due to some changes in the kernel-3.3.0 tree?
>>
>>
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Frank Peters wrote:
> Linux-3.3.0 is released and, as is my usual habit, I downloaded and compiled
> the plain vanilla source.
>
>
> Could this be due to some changes in the kernel-3.3.0 tree?
>
> Frank Peters
>
Frank,
NVidia release 295.33 last night. It's in
Barry Schwartz wrote:
> Frank Peters skribis:
>> I hope lilo stays around forever. It is a sensible choice.
>
> Lilo is good; it checks your work for you. The bootloader isn’t really
> an operating system feature, in my view, because if you have more than
> one OS they are all going to use the s
Frank Peters skribis:
> I hope lilo stays around forever. It is a sensible choice.
Lilo is good; it checks your work for you. The bootloader isn’t really
an operating system feature, in my view, because if you have more than
one OS they are all going to use the same bootloader (not counting
chai
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:42 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> Den 2012-03-23 00:33, Harry Holt skrev:
>
>> The only thing I use outside of Portage is Tomcat. Because Im a
>>
>> webapp developer and the Portage package is a big, steaming PITA.
>>
>
> suggestions go into bugs.g.o
>
>
Been there, done t
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:32:55 -0500
Barry Schwartz wrote:
>
> I install Grub outside of Portage, on the grounds that (a) it
> is a bad thing to upgrade unless you have to; and (b) the Grub 2
> ebuilds were broken anyway, and I didn’t want to switch back to Grub 1
> when moving from Exherbo back t
Den 2012-03-23 00:33, Harry Holt skrev:
The only thing I use outside of Portage is Tomcat. Because Im a
webapp developer and the Portage package is a big, steaming PITA.
suggestions go into bugs.g.o
Sorry about the top-post. Gmail on Android.
stop using it so, it works for your ebuilds, w
Mark Knecht skribis:
> I do use package.mask when I want or need to delay something getting
> onto one of my machines that I just don't want to deal with until
> others have proved it works. (Think about the new udev coming out...)
I moved most my system other than /home out of LVM and into one b
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Barry Schwartz
wrote:
> Frank Peters skribis:
>> Out of habit, I still use the kernel sources from kernel.org.
>
> This makes me curious what other people are using from outside of
> Portage. I install Grub outside of Portage, on the grounds that (a) it
> is a bad
Yo Barry!
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:32:55 -0500
Barry Schwartz wrote:
> Frank Peters skribis:
> > Out of habit, I still use the kernel sources from kernel.org.
>
> This makes me curious what other people are using from outside of
> Portage.
I install Apache, PHP, Mysql and Sendmail from tarballs
The only thing I use outside of Portage is Tomcat. Because I'm a webapp
developer and the Portage package is a big, steaming PITA.
Sorry about the top-post. Gmail on Android.
... HE
On Mar 22, 2012 7:29 PM, "Barry Schwartz"
wrote:
> Paul Hartman skribis:
> > I only install things outside of
Paul Hartman skribis:
> I only install things outside of portage into my home directory
> (pretending like I don't have root access), or very rarely install a
> single binary into /usr/local/bin. For anything else I'll make my own
> ebuild (or try to, anyway) and put it in my local overlay.
I use
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Barry Schwartz
wrote:
> Frank Peters skribis:
>> Out of habit, I still use the kernel sources from kernel.org.
>
> This makes me curious what other people are using from outside of
> Portage. I install Grub outside of Portage, on the grounds that (a) it
> is a bad
Frank Peters skribis:
> Out of habit, I still use the kernel sources from kernel.org.
This makes me curious what other people are using from outside of
Portage. I install Grub outside of Portage, on the grounds that (a) it
is a bad thing to upgrade unless you have to; and (b) the Grub 2
ebuilds w
Barry Schwartz skribis:
> I have found gentoo-sources utterly unreliable and finally settled on
> using only vanilla sources, using the ebuild for convenience.
Not to pick on Gentoo in particular -- I have seen Ubuntu break
otherwise functional kernels with patches, too.
Mark Knecht skribis:
> Anyway, I don't much know what the Gentoo devs do to patch
> gentoo-sources. I've gone back and forth between the two at different
> times. One reason to stick with gentoo-sources is that vanilla-sources
> (and presumably source directly from kernel.org) isn't supported by
>
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Frank Peters wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:03:59 -0700
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>>
>> I hadn't played with this since you first posted but I've been
>> waiting for a new nvidia-driver to solve the problem and not seen it.
>> As my laptop uses vanilla-sources I
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 09:03:59 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>I hadn't played with this since you first posted but I've been
> waiting for a new nvidia-driver to solve the problem and not seen it.
> As my laptop uses vanilla-sources I was stuck but also not really
> wanting to do the patch you did
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Frank Peters wrote:
> Linux-3.3.0 is released and, as is my usual habit, I downloaded and compiled
> the plain vanilla source.
>
> After rebooting to the command console, and before starting X, I needed
> to re-install the nvidia-driver module for the new kernel.
Frank Peters skribis:
> I think the main complaint is that the Nvidia drivers are closed
> binary blobs while Nouveau is an attempt to create an entirely
> open source driver.
Unfortunately the nvidia drivers are needed not only for graphics but
also to use the GPU for scientific calculations, in
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:40:34 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> I have no problem with you or anyone else running nouveau. None at all.
>
> I do have a problem with someone saying 'it's time for everyone to
> give up nvidia-drivers' without demonstrating they know the full
> impact of what they are s
Mark Knecht skribis:
> I do have a problem with someone saying 'it's time for everyone to
> give up nvidia-drivers' without demonstrating they know the full
> impact of what they are suggesting. Had Cheng Renquan suggest 'Maybe
> people who don't need anything other than basic X capabilities shoul
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Barry Schwartz
wrote:
> Mark Knecht skribis:
>> And how would one use CUDA if we gave up nvidia-drivers? Does nouveau
>> support all the CUDA stuff?
>
> I think they may have reverse engineered CUDA, but whether it is
> implemented I don’t know, and I wouldn’t wan
Mark Knecht skribis:
> And how would one use CUDA if we gave up nvidia-drivers? Does nouveau
> support all the CUDA stuff?
I think they may have reverse engineered CUDA, but whether it is
implemented I don’t know, and I wouldn’t want to be the one to test
it, either. :)
I’m donating processor ti
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> As I said, on kernel revision number changes I ALWAYS wait a minimum
> of 3-5 days before trying to upgrade. nvidia always seems to need at
> least a few days to catch up with a new release, or that's been my
> experience in the past anyway.
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Frank Peters wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:35:34 -0700
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>>
>> Possibly this from Google will help?
>>
>
> OK, I think I've found the URL that you may have intended:
>
> http://weltall.heliohost.org/wordpress/2012/01/20/linux-kernel-3-3-rc1
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:35:34 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> Possibly this from Google will help?
>
OK, I think I've found the URL that you may have intended:
http://weltall.heliohost.org/wordpress/2012/01/20/linux-kernel-3-3-rc1-and-nvidia-drivers/
I followed the second fix that is described a
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Cheng Renquan wrote:
> I have switched to nouveau driver, for over 1 year,
> using with gnome3 interface, no performance issue, and quite stable,
>
> enjoying every mainline kernel 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, no building issue
>
>
> I think it's time for everyone to give
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Frank Peters wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:35:34 -0700
> Mark Knecht wrote:
>
>>
>> Possibly this from Google will help?
>>
>
> Did you intend to include a link? If so, it must have gotten
> lost somewhere.
>
> Frank Peters
>
>
Gadzooks, yes I did. Sorry!
ht
I have switched to nouveau driver, for over 1 year,
using with gnome3 interface, no performance issue, and quite stable,
enjoying every mainline kernel 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, no building issue
I think it's time for everyone to give up nvidia-drivers, the blob of binary
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:12
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:35:34 -0700
Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> Possibly this from Google will help?
>
Did you intend to include a link? If so, it must have gotten
lost somewhere.
Frank Peters
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Frank Peters wrote:
> Linux-3.3.0 is released and, as is my usual habit, I downloaded and compiled
> the plain vanilla source.
>
> The first part of the build log (see attached file) indicates that the
> kernel source was correctly found (at /usr/src/linux), but f
Linux-3.3.0 is released and, as is my usual habit, I downloaded and compiled
the plain vanilla source.
After rebooting to the command console, and before starting X, I needed
to re-install the nvidia-driver module for the new kernel. Doing
"emerge nvidia-drivers" gave me the following error (the
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