[gentoo-dev] Gentoo, Google's Summer of Code, and You

2006-04-27 Thread Alec Warner
As many of you know by now, Gentoo has been chosen to fill one of the last spaces in this year's Google Summer of Code. This is a great opportunity for developers and users to interact and help out Gentoo as well as the OSS community. For those of you who haven't heard of Google's Summer of Code,

Re: [OT] [gentoo-dev] Version bumps, keywords and you

2006-04-27 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 27 April 2006 22:36, Jan Kundrát wrote: > Isn't it a *Vogon* poetry? Actually, it's Weeve's poetry.. even worse. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE pgpTFT4rVAt3T.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [OT] [gentoo-dev] Version bumps, keywords and you

2006-04-27 Thread Jan Kundrát
Jason Wever wrote: > In the really off chance that you've just had a run-in with a Vorgon > poetry session Isn't it a *Vogon* poetry? Cheers, -jkt -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth -- cd /local/pub && more beer > /dev/mouth signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wishlist: an automated package upgrade system with fine-tunable sysadmin control

2006-04-27 Thread Kevin
Thank you both for your detailed replies. I've got quite a list of additional notions now for trying to implement this idea myself, and I'm very grateful for the thoughtful suggestions. I also have a better understanding of current portage capabilities, so I appreciate the additional commentary o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:14 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Thursday 27 April 2006 10:54, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > I think the way forward would be to have this clarification (of herds > > vs teams) added to the metastructure document, and then for us to sort > > out the metadata.xml files on th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Which license?

2006-04-27 Thread Alin Nastac
A. Khattri wrote: >Im working on an ebuild for a package and Im not sure what license to use. >The package is Copyright Company "X" but has this underneath: > > >## This software may be freely copied, modified and redistributed >## without fee for non-commerical purposes provided that this license

Re: [gentoo-dev] Which license?

2006-04-27 Thread Tavis Ormandy
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 02:21:38PM -0400, A. Khattri wrote: > ## This software may be freely copied, modified and redistributed > ## without fee for non-commerical purposes provided that this license > ## remains intact and unmodified with any distribution. > > Last time I looked, there were some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Which license?

2006-04-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:21 -0400, A. Khattri wrote: > > Im working on an ebuild for a package and Im not sure what license to use. > The package is Copyright Company "X" but has this underneath: > > > ## This software may be freely copied, modified and redistributed > ## without fee for non-com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Which license?

2006-04-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 14:21 -0400, A. Khattri wrote: > > Im working on an ebuild for a package and Im not sure what license to use. > The package is Copyright Company "X" but has this underneath: > > > ## This software may be freely copied, modified and redistributed > ## without fee for non-com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 19:54 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: > > Where? > > Two places. First, in the description of maintainer: > > "Besides being a member of a herd, a package can also be maintained > directly" > > which implies packages can be maintained by being a member of a herd and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Mike, On 4/27/06, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 27 April 2006 10:54, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > I think the way forward would be to have this clarification (of herds > > vs teams) added to the metastructure document, and then for us to sort > > out the metadata.xml file

Re: [gentoo-dev] Which license?

2006-04-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
A. Khattri wrote: Im working on an ebuild for a package and Im not sure what license to use. The package is Copyright Company "X" but has this underneath: ## This software may be freely copied, modified and redistributed ## without fee for non-commerical purposes provided that this license ##

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 27 April 2006 10:54, Stuart Herbert wrote: > I think the way forward would be to have this clarification (of herds > vs teams) added to the metastructure document, and then for us to sort > out the metadata.xml files on the back of that. imho, rather than "fixing" the people's understa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 15:54 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > A herd is a group of like *packages* > > A team is a bunch of people who share a common goal (sometimes to > > maintain a herd of packages). > > A herd is also a bunch of mindless beasts who follow each other. > > The metastructure docum

[gentoo-dev] Which license?

2006-04-27 Thread A. Khattri
Im working on an ebuild for a package and Im not sure what license to use. The package is Copyright Company "X" but has this underneath: ## This software may be freely copied, modified and redistributed ## without fee for non-commerical purposes provided that this license ## remains intact and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 07:11:33PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > The thing is, in most cases it doesn't really matter. But a herd is a group > of > packages. That may be how it was originally intended, but it seems to me - and to others it seems - that the "herds" have evolved into what was ori

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:27:12 -0400 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 09:22 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: > > I must admit I've assumed that the herd entry in metadata.xml is a > > reasonable fall-back if the maintainer entry is missing or the > > listed ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 27 April 2006 09:22, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:29:32 -0400 > > Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To that end, it's been brought up that perhaps the metadata.xml files > > are partly to blame, in that they imply that the package is maintained >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Stuart Herbert
Hi Seemant, On 4/27/06, Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > Consider this both a rant and a GLEP pre-proposal. When we created the > idea of herds back in the day, there was a clear distinction between a > herd and a team (and a project). Over time, those definitions have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 09:22 +0200, Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: > I must admit I've assumed that the herd entry in metadata.xml is a > reasonable fall-back if the maintainer entry is missing or the listed > maintainer is away/not responding. This is implied by > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/met

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Wishlist: an automated package upgrade system with fine-tunable sysadmin control

2006-04-27 Thread Richard Fish
On 4/27/06, Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In any case, once you get your list and weed out the stuff you /don't/ > want on it, rather than doing that copy trickery, try this: Yeah, much smarter than my cp tricks. Although using emerge to generate the package list will have a problem in that

Re: [gentoo-dev] SHA256 digest issues

2006-04-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:50:02 +0200 Marien Zwart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | We (portage project) are fixing known broken Manifests/digests. If you | come across any broken SHA256 digests feel free to fix them though: | the package is basically unusable with ~arch portage until it is | fixed, and f

[gentoo-dev] SHA256 digest issues

2006-04-27 Thread Marien Zwart
As reported in bug 131293 a pycrypto bug caused a lot of digest and Manifest files to be created with bogus sha256 hashes. A fixed pycrypto (2.0.1-r5) was committed to the tree. This means the following: - If you run ~arch portage and the latest pycrypto you will hit digest failures. You will hi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Alin Nastac
Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo) wrote: >It would be useful to know how many people think herds are not >maintainers - if only a few people think this then I suggest it would >be better to accept the common interpretation of herd as a group of >people who can maintain a package. > > > I've always conside

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds, Teams and Projects

2006-04-27 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:29:32 -0400 Seemant Kulleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To that end, it's been brought up that perhaps the metadata.xml files > are partly to blame, in that they imply that the package is maintained > by a herd. There is not maintainer-team listed, just a herd. > > So, I

[gentoo-dev] Re: Wishlist: an automated package upgrade system with fine-tunable sysadmin control

2006-04-27 Thread Duncan
Richard Fish posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:10:27 -0700: > So maybe this could be satisified by allowing user-defined categories > of packages beyond system and world? Something like world, system, > fragile, non-fragile? Actually, that's called set support,