Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-31 Thread Thilo Bangert
Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org said: Ryan Hill wrote: I'm tired of playing, as I'm sure you are. So please, let's be quiet now, and let the big people talk. This is a public list designed to facilitate discussion of gentoo software development. Anybody with something constructive to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Patch to remove JAVA_PKG_VNEED support from java-utils-2.eclass

2009-05-31 Thread Petteri Räty
Alistair Bush wrote: This patch removes the functionality within java-utils-2.eclass to record and pass to java-config old style virtuals. This functionality is not utilized within any repo that I know about and is _most probably_ horribly broken anyway. _ALL_ ebuilds that are using this

[gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-31 Thread Duncan
Thilo Bangert bang...@gentoo.org posted 200905311126.00274.bang...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 31 May 2009 11:25:56 +0200: the thing is though, nothing constructive is being said. people are going in circles. ciaran and co are pushing glep55 for reasons which they have stated

[gentoo-dev] A new glep: Ebuild format and metadata handling

2009-05-31 Thread Patrick Lauer
Hello people, as the discussion about glep55 has gone in circles long enough I decided to collect the various ideas presented around that theme complex and compare them in a way that might allow us to reach a sane decision. Since it has become quite a lot of text I've kept some parts in

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE default value (GLEP 23)

2009-05-31 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mounir Lamouri wrote: I've attached a script to count how many instances of each license there are, and how many instances in each group. Here are the group counts I get: @FSF-APPROVED 23641 @GPL-COMPATIBLE 22956 @OSI-APPROVED 23284 @other 5998

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-05-31 Thread Richard Freeman
Duncan wrote: A team can have the best rhetoric in the world, but if they don't actually show up and field a team on game day, they lose by default. Fortunately or unfortunately, that looks to be where this is headed. Agreed, there is definitely something to be said for offering solutions.

Re: [gentoo-dev] A new glep: Ebuild format and metadata handling

2009-05-31 Thread Richard Freeman
Patrick Lauer wrote: If I should have forgotten any approach or misrepresented one I'd appreciate an updated or rephrased section so it can be easily updated. This keeps coming up for some reason: parsers: It enforces some minor limitations, for example EAPI needs to be unique and cannot be

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-05-31 23h59 UTC

2009-05-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2009-05-31 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-text/ghostscript-esp2009-05-26 05:59:58 pva kde-base/pykde 2009-05-26 14:20:21 tampakrap

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-05-31 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello fellow developers and users. Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). All nominations must be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list. If you were nominated and want to run,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-05-31 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Hello, On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2009/2010 are now open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 14/06/2009). I would like to kick-start the nominations by nominating Mart Raudsepp (leio),

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Conflicting RDEPENDS

2009-05-31 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: Patrick Börjesson psychoti...@lavabit.com posted 20090529201741.gb11...@nexon.nexus, excerpted below, on Fri, 29 May 2009 22:17:41 +0200: Why exactly would you want to use --oneshot for a leaf package that is not depended on by

[gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Conflicting RDEPENDS

2009-05-31 Thread Duncan
Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org posted 4a22682a.1050...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 31 May 2009 13:21:14 +0200: Duncan wrote: For leaf packages [-1] serves as a sort of test install. Experimental installs and their deps typically sit in the --depclean list for anything

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Conflicting RDEPENDS

2009-05-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: Patrick Börjesson psychoti...@lavabit.com posted 20090529201741.gb11...@nexon.nexus, excerpted below, on Fri, 29 May 2009 22:17:41 +0200: Why

[gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Conflicting RDEPENDS

2009-05-31 Thread Duncan
Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org posted b41005390905312058p314e6e1bnda50488d56ba0...@mail.gmail.com, excerpted below, on Sun, 31 May 2009 20:58:27 -0700: On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) hk...@gentoo.org wrote: I think [trialware install] is an interesting use-case. It