[gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Hi devs, while there is the appreciated multiple ABI portage support going on, a thought on the intentions of the multilib profiles. Some background: I do have to support building an older, but still maintained large application software, that simply does not work when built as 64bit. As it does

[gentoo-dev] virtualx.eclass changes

2009-10-20 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Recently, virtualx.eclass changed how it adds dependencies. Previously, it always added IUSE=X, and added X? ( x11-base/xorg-server x11-apps/xhost ) to both DEPEND and RDEPEND (the RDEPEND part appears to have been unintentional). This has been

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/20/2009 04:06 PM, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system be compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? I'm not sure I understand the whole procedure you use to build this app. Why not simply use -m32 when building it? Why

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michael Haubenwallner schrieb: Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system be compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? Please comment, thank you! /haubi/ If you have a 64bit system, the default should be 64bit, both for libs and for binaries. The additional

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Duncan
Thomas Sachau posted on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:29:25 +0200 as excerpted: Michael Haubenwallner schrieb: Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system be compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? Please comment, thank you! /haubi/ If you have a 64bit system, the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 12:25:15 Duncan wrote: Thomas Sachau posted on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:29:25 +0200 as excerpted: Michael Haubenwallner schrieb: Isn't the intention of multilib to have a new (64bit) system be compatible with the corresponding old (32bit) system? Please comment,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Support for multiple ABIs for amd64 (64bit,32bit) in multilib overlay

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 19 October 2009 16:59:55 Thomas Sachau wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: the majority of the time, the compiler driver (i.e. `gcc`) should be used for linking. very few packages should invoke the linker directly. that is why currently the toolchain-func.eclass has tc-getLD return

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 09:06:29 Michael Haubenwallner wrote: As I'm building the toolchain myself too, I configure it with the 32bit host triplet on each platform, usually disabling multilib. this doesnt make any sense to me This simply works for ppc-aix, hppa-hpux, ia64-hpux,

[gentoo-dev] KDE Team Meeting - October 2009

2009-10-20 Thread Alex Alexander
Greetings, The KDE Team will have its usual monthly meeting this Thursday. Date: Thursday, 2009/10/22 Time: 1900 UTC Channel: #gentoo-meetings Late announcement, I know, but I guess better late than never :) Reply to this email with anything you'd like to have discussed at the meeting.

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Jonathan Callen
Mike Frysinger wrote: if you read FHS you'll see that both implementations are allowed. Gentoo isnt violating anything here. wrt LSB, who knows. there are a ton of things we dont follow with LSB. Actually, at first, FHS says that any /libqual would be allowed, but it then goes into

[gentoo-dev] Status of 10.0 profiles??

2009-10-20 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Hello, Since the 10.0 release there has not been an outward facing announcement for users to switch profiles. * Are we deprecating the 2008.0 profiles? * Are 10.0 profiles feature complete ? * Will there be an announcement? * Why are only the 2008.0 hardened profiles deprecated? ( %% find

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: multilib and the compatibility to singlelib

2009-10-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 20 October 2009 16:47:50 Jonathan Callen wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: The problem was that Gentoo's early amd64 implementation predated this standardization, and we had chosen the other way. While we've defaulted to lib64 for 64-bit libs for years, it has never been considered

[gentoo-portage-dev] REVDEP-REBUILD and emerge default options

2009-10-20 Thread Arthur D.
Hello, everyone. I think all you know the utility revdep-rebuild. It's very usefull. But it has some nasty features, such as totally ignoreing of emerge default options set in /etc/make.conf Would you like portage to be verbose? Ignored. Do you like portage showing you what's going to be

[gentoo-portage-dev] Re: REVDEP-REBUILD and emerge default options

2009-10-20 Thread Duncan
Arthur D. posted on Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:23:54 +0300 as excerpted: I suggested my help in developing the script. I asked him what options will break things... No answer. 12 days left. FWIW, 12 days isn't so bad. It's often two weeks before you get a first maintainer response on a bug (I'd

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] REVDEP-REBUILD and emerge default options

2009-10-20 Thread Zac Medico
Arthur D. wrote: Would you like portage to be verbose? Ignored. Do you like portage showing you what's going to be emerged? Ignored! Do you wish portage to ask for your confirmation before actually doing compilation? Yes, IGNORED! I'd suggest passing the -p option to revdep-rebuild on the