Re: [gentoo-dev] Please migrate to git-2.eclass

2011-06-25 Thread justin
On 6/24/11 11:35 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > git-2.eclass is in the tree for a while now, and there's still awful > lot of packages using old & deprecated git.eclass. > > Why migrate? Hi, What are the pitfalls during migration? Or is it just /git/git-2/ ? Thanks jusitn signature.as

Re: [gentoo-dev] validity of manifest signing key

2011-06-25 Thread justin
Hi, I was signing my commits since I am a dev, but I just discovered that I only do sha1 signing. How do I switch to sha256 signing? justin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please migrate to git-2.eclass

2011-06-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:11:16 +0200 justin wrote: > On 6/24/11 11:35 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hello, > > > > git-2.eclass is in the tree for a while now, and there's still awful > > lot of packages using old & deprecated git.eclass. > > > > Why migrate? > > What are the pitfalls during migra

Re: [gentoo-dev] validity of manifest signing key

2011-06-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:37:55 +0200 justin wrote: > I was signing my commits since I am a dev, but I just discovered that > I only do sha1 signing. How do I switch to sha256 signing? $ grep digest ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf personal-digest-preferences sha256,sha512,sha1,ripemd160,md5 -- Best regards, M

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please migrate to git-2.eclass

2011-06-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/25/2011 12:35 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, git-2.eclass is in the tree for a while now, and there's still awful lot of packages using old& deprecated git.eclass. I think I remember seeing deprecation warnings in the past when an ebuild was using a deprecated eclass (right at the begi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-25 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 02:49, Kent Fredric wrote: > I'm strongly of the mind that by making the tag system arbitrarily > flat, you might be prematurely limiting yourself, as well as risking a > future where the "tag index" is a sea of meaningless words. > > Tags in my mind, should be grouped by t

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 21 of June 2011 16:24:07 Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > As we discussed for a while, the media-sound/ category has grown very > large and it may be a good idea to split it. > > Right now, it contains audio players, editing software, converters, > sound systems and a lot of other util

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Friday 24 of June 2011 09:55:19 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:52:03 +0200 > > Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: > > You might not like it, but Gentoo categories have always been > > directories, not words into metadata.xml. > > So tags are in some way related to categories th

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 June 2011 23:55, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > > IMHO the best approach is to forget about categories and: > > - make package names unique identifiers (it's not that hard, renaming stuff in > app-xemacs mostly) - categories would serve no purpose as id anymore (though > may need to be provided a

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:55:40 +0200 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Friday 24 of June 2011 09:55:19 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:52:03 +0200 > > > > Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: > > > You might not like it, but Gentoo categories have always been > > > directories, not words

[gentoo-dev] SHA256 and indention in metadata.xml

2011-06-25 Thread justin
Hi all, so I solved my signing question. With a 1024 DSA key you need to add enable-dsa2 personal-digest-preferences SHA256 to your gpg.conf. Another question, do we have a rule, how the metadata.xml has to be indented? Tabs or n spaces? thanks justin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:22:39 +1200 Kent Fredric wrote: > Perhaps we need a new way to apply metadata to a whole host of > packages? > > Also, categories have extra use for simple convenience of their native > groupings, ie: I've been known to set USE flags/KEYWORDS that apply to > an entire cate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please migrate to git-2.eclass

2011-06-25 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/25/2011 12:35 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> git-2.eclass is in the tree for a while now, and there's still awful >> lot of packages using old&  deprecated git.eclass. > > I think I remember seeing deprecation warnings i

Re: [gentoo-dev] SHA256 and indention in metadata.xml

2011-06-25 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM, justin wrote: > Another question, do we have a rule, how the metadata.xml has to be > indented? Tabs or n spaces? > There's no rule, but we should follow the same rule as ebuilds — indentation should be with a tab that's displayed as 4 spaces in editors (no expans

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 08:22, Kent Fredric wrote: > I think something else that may be important to consider if one is > eliminating category directories is how we'll replace the utility > currently provided by category/metadata.xml > > Some things are simply grossly impractical to maintain indiv

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Duncan
Maciej Mrozowski posted on Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:55:40 +0200 as excerpted: > On Friday 24 of June 2011 09:55:19 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> So tags are in some way related to categories then? > > IMHO the best approach is to forget about categories and: > > - make package names unique identifiers (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Saturday 25 of June 2011 17:19:47 Duncan wrote: > Maciej Mrozowski posted on Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:55:40 +0200 as excerpted: > > On Friday 24 of June 2011 09:55:19 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> So tags are in some way related to categories then? > > > > IMHO the best approach is to forget about cat

Re: [gentoo-dev] SHA256 and indention in metadata.xml

2011-06-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM, justin wrote: >> Another question, do we have a rule, how the metadata.xml has to be >> indented? Tabs or n spaces? > > There's no rule, but we should follow the same rule as ebuilds — > indentation should be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > Assuming package names are unique identifiers, tags are not > necessary to be available for ebuild.sh so metadata.xml is the best > place. But we know that package names are _not_ unique. There are many cases in the Portage tree where two or ev

Re: [gentoo-dev] SHA256 and indention in metadata.xml

2011-06-25 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM, justin wrote: >>> Another question, do we have a rule, how the metadata.xml has to be >>> indented? Tabs or n spaces? >> >> There's no rule, but we s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Saturday 25 of June 2011 19:29:58 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > > Assuming package names are unique identifiers, tags are not > > necessary to be available for ebuild.sh so metadata.xml is the best > > place. > > But we know that package names are

Re: [gentoo-dev] SHA256 and indention in metadata.xml

2011-06-25 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25-06-2011 14:23, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM, justin wrote: >> Another question, do we have a rule, how the metadata.xml has to be >> indented? Tabs or n spaces? >> > > There's no rule, but we should follow the sam

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 26 June 2011 05:29, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > >> Assuming package names are unique identifiers, tags are not >> necessary to be available for ebuild.sh so metadata.xml is the best >> place. > > But we know that package names are _not_ unique. Th

[gentoo-dev] Thoughts about broken package handling

2011-06-25 Thread Stuart Longland
Hi all, I've been busy for the past month or two, busy updating some of my systems. In particular, the Yeeloong I have, hasn't seen attention in a very long time. Soon as I update one part however, I find some swath of packages break because of a soname change, anything Python-related stops work

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 21:47, Kent Fredric wrote: > Package names themselves can be thusly arbitrary , and could be a SHA > sum or something obscure, as long as all internals and dependencies > used the same arbitrary name, things would work as intended. > I mentioned this idea of internally refe

[gentoo-dev] Re: Thoughts about broken package handling

2011-06-25 Thread Duncan
Stuart Longland posted on Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:59:05 +1000 as excerpted: > Currently we have three packages that handle this separately: > - revdep-rebuild (handles packages broken by soname changes, etc) > - python-updater (handles Python module rebuilds after upgrading Python) > - perl-cleaner (h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 26 June 2011 15:49, Wyatt Epp wrote: > As for the latter part, the size of a git repo becoming umanageable > over time had not occurred to me, I'm afraid-- would it work to use > shallow clones?  Otherwise, the herd-wise division is probably > acceptable.  Need to think about that one more.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Thoughts about broken package handling

2011-06-25 Thread Benedikt Böhm
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Stuart Longland wrote: > - revdep-rebuild (handles packages broken by soname changes, etc) solved by preserved-libs in portage-2.2 > - python-updater (handles Python module rebuilds after upgrading Python) > - perl-cleaner (handles Perl module rebuilds after upgr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Thoughts about broken package handling

2011-06-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 26 June 2011 17:44, Benedikt Böhm wrote: > these just exist because python and perl ebuilds are horribly broken. > take a look at RUBY_TARGETS or PHP_TARGETS for an example of how to do > it right. this would also fix all the failures that python and perl > introduce to binary packages. Perl d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Thoughts about broken package handling

2011-06-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 26 June 2011 14:59, Stuart Longland wrote: > Hi all, > > I've been busy for the past month or two, busy updating some of my > systems.  In particular, the Yeeloong I have, hasn't seen attention in a > very long time.  Soon as I update one part however, I find some swath of > packages break beca