Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:04:40 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Michał Górny posted on Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:47:38 +0200 as excerpted: On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:30:02 +0200 Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: On 08/09/2012 09:43 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 09 Aug 2012

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, all. Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two libudev providers: =sys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/udev. Making the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/10/2012 09:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: vdr is a first example which comes to my mind. They workaround program configuration limitations and the init.d scripts become a complex extra-configuration parser + plugin loader. Well, another thing here is that upstream AFAIK is not willing to

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] euscan: Need to add more upstream info in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Federico fox Scrinzi
Hi everybody! euscan is available in portage as a dev package (app-portage/euscan-). This tool allows to check if a given package/ebuild has new upstream versions or not. It uses different heuristics to scan upstream and grab new versions and related urls. euscan can use either custom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Luca Barbato lu_z...@gentoo.org wrote: The whole point of the debate should be if easier to have systemd split itself in usable components so people with certain focuses could leverage it on linux and replace those on non-linux (apparently not a chance) or have

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] euscan: Need to add more upstream info in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Having done some debian packaging for work, I find watch files from debian really helpful. Changing the format to a XML compatible one does not seem like a hard work so I'll probably leave that up for others to discuss. Since you are proposing this, a side question is: Why should we write SRC_URI

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:03:23 +0200 Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote: Since you are proposing this, a side question is: Why should we write SRC_URI in ebuilds if that info is now available in metadata.xml ? (granted that we might still want to keep over-riding this information in

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 10/08/2012 07:21, Jeroen Roovers wrote: 3) SRC_URI can change over time, and across versions (even with all the variables in place). I agree with Jeroen here — in particular see things that come from alioth such as sys-apps/pcsc-lite and app-crypt/ccid: the SRC_URI actually has to change

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, all. Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two libudev providers: =sys-apps/systemd-185 and

[gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-10 Thread Duncan
Michał Górny posted on Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:43:26 +0200 as excerpted: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:04:40 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Michał Górny posted on Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:47:38 +0200 as excerpted: Or anything else what can be spawned for shell. And a lot more what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:33:10 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Michał Górny schrieb: On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, all. Since nowadays udev is bundled

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] euscan: Need to add more upstream info in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Corentin Chary
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote: Having done some debian packaging for work, I find watch files from debian really helpful. Changing the format to a XML compatible one does not seem like a hard work so I'll probably leave that up for others to

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Corentin Chary
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 14:03:23 +0200 Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org wrote: Since you are proposing this, a side question is: Why should we write SRC_URI in ebuilds if that info is now available in metadata.xml ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI in metadata.xml

2012-08-10 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 10/08/2012 13:05, Corentin Chary wrote: Right, our proposal is not here to replace SRC_URI, it's here to fix the cases where SRC_URI can't be sanely used to guess new upstream versions (strange mangling rules, unbrowsable directories, etc...). Yes I guess Jeroen was just saying why we

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-08-10 Thread Thomas Sachau
Michał Górny schrieb: On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:33:10 +0200 Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: Michał Górny schrieb: On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 14:24:27 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:18:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: Hello, all. Since nowadays udev