Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Ben de Groot
On 23 September 2012 18:40, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:33:58 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: >> > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 >> > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> > >> > > Matt Turner schrieb: >> > > > On Sat, Sep 22,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-23 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 23:37 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > - net-wireless/zd1201-firmware: No license in tarball or on homepage. Ubuntu distributes it in their linux-firmware package with the following LICENCE.zd1201 file: The firmware was originally distributed by Zydas in their original drive

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > - net-misc/ntp: "as-is" looks fine as main license, although some > parts of the code are under different licenses like GPL (but I > haven't checked in detail what gets installed). Uh, if we're distributing the sources, and they contain

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-09-23 23h59 UTC

2012-09-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-09-23 23h59 UTC. Removals: Additions: media-fonts/oxygen-fonts2012-09-18 07:22:02 johu media-libs/glu 2012-09-18 23:24:45 chithanh games-fps/serious-sam-

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Multiple ABI support through package appending/partial removal

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, Since my previous idea of DYNAMIC_SLOTS proved too complex to design and implement, I would like to offer an another idea, based partially on what Ciaran mentioned. Before I start getting into details, I'd like to know your opinions, and what possible problems am I missing. To keep it clean

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, hasufell wrote: >> If we really decide to move things to a new license file, then I'd >> rather avoid the name "as-is" because it is partly the reason for >> the confusion. > I agree on that. I saw it more than once that people use "as-is" for > the license, just becau

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Zac Medico
On 09/23/2012 03:02 AM, hasufell wrote: > On 09/23/2012 11:56 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> So i would prefer some help/support with multilib-portage to get >>> it accepted sooner, instead of this additional workaround for a >>> subset of packages. > >> I prefer the simpler solution. > > > I prefe

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > One problem that I remembered now: > If every ebuild inheritting this eclass (either this one or similar) > will add a "multilib" USE, people running multilib profiles will get it > enabled for ALL packages inheritting it, causing them to see h

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:07 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Matt Turner schrieb: >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build >>> packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. >> >> Thanks a lot, Michał! This

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:02 AM, hasufell wrote: > I prefer the stronger solution. This is just a quick workaround. And I'd prefer if people who aren't involved with what I'm working on don't try to block my progress. I appreciate your opinion, and truthfully I'd just rather have portage handle

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > On 22/09/2012 20:42, Matt Turner wrote: >> I think this means "make 32-bit binary packages' dependencies on amd64 >> not use the emul- packages"? If so, that'd certainly be a component of >> getting rid of emul-linux-x86-xlibs. It's not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:26:55 +0200 Peter Stuge wrote: > Michał, Pacho, and everyone else who suck epically at this: > > CAN YOU FFS START TO TRIM QUOTES IN YOUR EMAILS! I've trimmed them in the next e-mail to the one you replied to :P. -- Best regards, Michał Górny signature.asc Description

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:47:44 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:21:20 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:46:02 -0300 > > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:24:46 +0200 > > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > > It is a simple eclass u

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 22/09/2012 20:42, Matt Turner wrote: > I think this means "make 32-bit binary packages' dependencies on amd64 > not use the emul- packages"? If so, that'd certainly be a component of > getting rid of emul-linux-x86-xlibs. It's not in the scope of my > project to get rid of /all/ of the emul- pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:21:20 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:46:02 -0300 > Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:24:46 +0200 > > Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to > > > build packages for multiple ABIs w

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 13:52 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: >> Pacho Ramos schrieb: >>> El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Matt Turner schrieb: >> On Sat, Sep 22, 201

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Peter Stuge
Michał, Pacho, and everyone else who suck epically at this: CAN YOU FFS START TO TRIM QUOTES IN YOUR EMAILS! Thank you //Peter pgpJmV3IkjFsp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 22-09-2012 a las 23:24 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build > packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. > > Use case: xorg packages, ask Matt. > --- > gx86/eclass/autotools-multilib.eclass | 72 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:05:58 +0200 hasufell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/23/2012 12:40 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:02:01 +0200 hasufell > > wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 09/23/2012 11:56

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 13:52 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: > Pacho Ramos schrieb: > > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 > >> Thomas Sachau wrote: > >> > >>> Matt Turner schrieb: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Gór

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-23 Thread hasufell
On 09/23/2012 02:04 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > If we really decide to move things to a new license file, then I'd > rather avoid the name "as-is" because it is partly the reason for the > confusion. I agree on that. I saw it more than once that people use "as-is" for the license, just because the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/23/2012 12:40 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:02:01 +0200 hasufell > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 09/23/2012 11:56 AM, Michał Górny wrote: So i would prefer some help/support with mul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Rich Freeman wrote: > Well, I can see legal problems any time you take a thousand things > that all have a bunch of non-identical, informal licenses and treat > them as the same. However, I don't think it is practical to do > otherwise. I agree. Creating hundreds of li

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:30:41 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 13:13 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:03:56 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > That would be better as there are a ton of ebuilds not inheritting > > > autotools-utils.eclass even being

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 >> Thomas Sachau wrote: >> >>> Matt Turner schrieb: On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 13:13 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:03:56 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 12:40 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:33:58 +0200 > > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > > > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:5

Re: [gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > So, either we should only mark free software with the as-is label. > Then it might help if the text was clarified as in the patch below. > > Or we continue marking random non-free stuff with as-is. Then we > should IMHO remove as-is from our

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:03:56 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 12:40 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:33:58 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 12:40 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:33:58 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 > > > Thomas Sachau wrote: > > > > > > > Matt Turner schrieb: > > >

[gentoo-dev] Clarify the "as-is" license?

2012-09-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
>From time to time cases like the following are brought up to licen...@gentoo.org, for a package that is labelled with LICENSE="as-is": | Permission to use, copy, modify and/or distribute this software in | both binary and source form, for non-commercial purposes, is hereby | granted [...] This i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:02:01 +0200 hasufell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/23/2012 11:56 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> So i would prefer some help/support with multilib-portage to get > >> it accepted sooner, instead of this additional workaround for a > >> sub

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:33:58 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 > > Thomas Sachau wrote: > > > > > Matt Turner schrieb: > > > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > >> It is a simp

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 23-09-2012 a las 11:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 > Thomas Sachau wrote: > > > Matt Turner schrieb: > > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > >> It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build > > >> package

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/23/2012 11:56 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> So i would prefer some help/support with multilib-portage to get >> it accepted sooner, instead of this additional workaround for a >> subset of packages. > > I prefer the simpler solution. > I prefer t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:07:30 +0200 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Matt Turner schrieb: > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build > >> packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. > > > > Thanks a lot, Mich

Re: [gentoo-dev] media-video/vlc looking for a new maintainer

2012-09-23 Thread Luca Barbato
On 09/19/2012 04:00 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: > Thanks for all you have done maintaining VLC all those years. It is > undoubtedly one of the most popular and versatile video players out > there. I really hope someone steps up to become its new dedicated > maintainer. Given I'm in contact with upstre

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Thomas Sachau
Matt Turner schrieb: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build >> packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. > > Thanks a lot, Michał! This looks good to me. > >> Use case: xorg packages, ask Matt. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggest to specify a way to query for USEs in next council

2012-09-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 22-09-2012 a las 22:37 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:41:24 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > Hello > > > > This comes from: > > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/260536 > > > > In that one, we try to use the following: > > has vala ${IUSE//+/} && !

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] autotools-multilib: wrapper eclass for multilib builds.

2012-09-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:46:02 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:24:46 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > It is a simple eclass using autotools out-of-source builds to build > > packages for multiple ABIs when multilib is supported. > > > > to some extent, can't you do the same