Re: [gentoo-dev] Better handling of USE flags to enable/disable system libraries

2013-05-28 Thread Sergey Popov
29.05.2013 03:01, David Carlos Manuelda пишет: > El Martes, 28 de mayo de 2013 14:03:52 Mike Frysinger escribió: >> On Tuesday 28 May 2013 13:53:54 Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:43:10 +0200 David Carlos Manuelda wrote: I posted a bug about that along with a suggestion, despite

[gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init

2013-05-28 Thread Duncan
Tom Wijsman posted on Tue, 28 May 2013 13:56:19 +0200 as excerpted: > You're making a lot of statements like this but don't back them up. > > Why would this work best for this situation? What's wrong with the rest? While as long as it stays out of my way enough so I don't have to worry about it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Better handling of USE flags to enable/disable system libraries

2013-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:01 PM, David Carlos Manuelda wrote: > Ok, thinking it better I agree, that having them use system libraries is far > better, but why then those affected ebuilds have corresponding USE disabled by > default? Probably because the use of those system libraries is experiment

Re: [gentoo-dev] Better handling of USE flags to enable/disable system libraries

2013-05-28 Thread David Carlos Manuelda
El Martes, 28 de mayo de 2013 14:03:52 Mike Frysinger escribió: > On Tuesday 28 May 2013 13:53:54 Michał Górny wrote: > > On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:43:10 +0200 David Carlos Manuelda wrote: > > > I posted a bug about that along with a suggestion, despite sometimes I > > > do > > > not explain myself co

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-28 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 09:07:37PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > For the others, how large is the benefit of having them switchable? > At least some of them look like something that wouldn't hurt people if > it was always-built. The dev manual states that use flags are to control optional dependenc

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 28 May 2013 15:22:04 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > I thought about ssl but I'm still not sure if USE=ssl means just openssl > or any ssl. Eg, with curl, which has a choice of one of six backend ssl > providers, I changed USE=ssl to mean that one and only one of the six > must be

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-28 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/28/2013 03:07 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:57:03 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: On 05/28/2013 11:35 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:38:09 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: I was about to add a use expand flag for monkeyd (a tiny web server) and there

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:57:03 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > On 05/28/2013 11:35 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:38:09 -0400 > > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > > > >> I was about to add a use expand flag for monkeyd (a tiny web server) and > >> there is a notice in base/make.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-28 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/28/2013 11:35 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:38:09 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: I was about to add a use expand flag for monkeyd (a tiny web server) and there is a notice in base/make.default to discuss use expand flags on the list first. There are about 9 plugins fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Better handling of USE flags to enable/disable system libraries

2013-05-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 28 May 2013 13:53:54 Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:43:10 +0200 David Carlos Manuelda wrote: > > I posted a bug about that along with a suggestion, despite sometimes I do > > not explain myself correctly (I am very sorry): bug #471590 > > > > Many packages are bundling its

Re: [gentoo-dev] Better handling of USE flags to enable/disable system libraries

2013-05-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:43:10 +0200 David Carlos Manuelda wrote: > I posted a bug about that along with a suggestion, despite sometimes I do not > explain myself correctly (I am very sorry): bug #471590 > > Many packages are bundling its own libraries rather than link against system > ones, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Review Board for Gentoo

2013-05-28 Thread Alexey Shvetsov
Hi! Cool! I didnt use RB before, but i use gerrit. Do you pan to integrate it to g.o.g.o? It seems can be done by git commit hooks В письме от 28 мая 2013 23:42:17 пользователь Michael Palimaka написал: > Hi, > > I have set up a Review Board instance[1] for testing / evaluation / > whatever-you

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-28 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 27 May 2013 16:38:09 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > I was about to add a use expand flag for monkeyd (a tiny web server) and > there is a notice in base/make.default to discuss use expand flags on > the list first. There are about 9 plugins for monkeyd similar to apache > which ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] Separate boot/root already [WAS: eselect init]

2013-05-28 Thread Luca Barbato
On 05/28/2013 01:45 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > Out of sheer curiosity... is "bb-init" based on busybox? If so, a it IS busybox =) > separate partition would also prevent standard utilities from stomping > all over their busybox symlink equivalants. Add another entry to the > grub/lilo menu, and

[gentoo-dev] Better handling of USE flags to enable/disable system libraries

2013-05-28 Thread David Carlos Manuelda
I posted a bug about that along with a suggestion, despite sometimes I do not explain myself correctly (I am very sorry): bug #471590 Many packages are bundling its own libraries rather than link against system ones, and there is a bug tracker for that (bug #251464) As I saw in many ebuilds, it

[gentoo-dev] Review Board for Gentoo

2013-05-28 Thread Michael Palimaka
Hi, I have set up a Review Board instance[1] for testing / evaluation / whatever-you-want purposes. If you are not familiar with what happens in a review, there are a number of established Review Boards to look at.[2] This instance is currently configured for gentoo-x86, as well as a coupl

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect init

2013-05-28 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 28/05/13 12:43 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 5/28/13 6:19 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> And you actually make the boot depend on: >> >> 1) valid /bin/sh > > If it doesn't exist you have a few order of magnitude bigger > problem. > >> 2) valid /etc

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect init

2013-05-28 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 28/05/13 12:43 AM, Luca Barbato wrote: OK -- so, given how very simple this wrapper is, and likewise how simple the switcher script would probably be to write, what's the goal of this whole thread, exactly? It doesn't sound like this is someth

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init

2013-05-28 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 28 May 2013 09:56:49 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > In part my post was to make it obvious that's really what we'll end > up doing if we want any sort of robustness at all. How much robustness do we really want? http://engineerblogs.org/2011/04/can-a-design-be-too-rob

Re: [gentoo-dev] New USE_EXPAND flag for www-servers/monkeyd

2013-05-28 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/28/2013 02:01 AM, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-27 at 16:38 -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: There are about 9 plugins for monkeyd similar to apache which can be turned on/off by a configure switch. It makes sense to follow the same logic as apache here. Indeed it does. Part

[gentoo-dev] Re: Switchup-mode and boottime selector? Was: eselect init

2013-05-28 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Mon, 27 May 2013 18:40:21 -0400 as excerpted: > What does this accomplish that could not be accomplished by... > * placing a switcher script in /sbin > * booting to single-user mode, and running the switcher script FWIW I agree with you. In part my post was to make it obv