Re: [gentoo-dev] PMS

2014-08-01 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2014, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014, Martin Vaeth wrote: >> >>> Quite the opposite, PMS claims that one cannot rely on >>> anything stored in /var/db >> >> Where does it say so? > "Appendix B: Unspecified Items > The following item

Re: [gentoo-dev] Meeting of the ppc/ppc64 teams: Monday Aug 4, 2014 @20:00 UTC

2014-08-01 Thread Jack Morgan
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 09:37:10AM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm email gentoo-dev@ because I'm trying to hit up as many devs as > possible. Hopefully you've seen the recent discussions about what to do > with ppc/ppc64 given the low manpower. Let's get interested peopl

[gentoo-dev] PMS (was: don't rely on dynamic deps)

2014-08-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014, Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> Quite the opposite, PMS claims that one cannot rely on >> anything stored in /var/db > > Where does it say so? "Appendix B: Unspecified Items The following items are not specified by this document, and must not be relied

[gentoo-dev] Re: Avoiding rebuilds

2014-08-01 Thread Martin Vaeth
Steven J. Long wrote: >> >> > It will probably also cause confusion for comaintainers and >> > collaborators, especially when INSTALL_VERSION points to a version >> > that has already been removed. > > So use another name that can't be confused. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding: I did not unde

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: crossdev and multilib interference

2014-08-01 Thread Steven J. Long
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:36AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 01/08/14 05:05 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: > > I don't know why we can't just mask cross-*/whatever in the > > multilib profile, instead of more talk of "masking crossdev" with a > > heavy heart. > > > > Nor do know if that's been done al

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: package.mask vs ~arch

2014-08-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:13:33AM +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:01:53PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:04:54AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > A package that hasn't been tested AT ALL doesn't belong in ~arch. > > > Suppose the maintainer is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: crossdev and multilib interference

2014-08-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/08/14 05:05 AM, Steven J. Long wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2014, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> On 19/06/14 05:20 PM, Steven J. Long wrote: >>> Well I've spent far too long at crossdev code, only to see this >>> and realise you can simply hard-mask:

[gentoo-dev] Meeting of the ppc/ppc64 teams: Monday Aug 4, 2014 @20:00 UTC

2014-08-01 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone, I'm email gentoo-dev@ because I'm trying to hit up as many devs as possible. Hopefully you've seen the recent discussions about what to do with ppc/ppc64 given the low manpower. Let's get interested people meeting in #gentoo-powerpc on Monday Aug 4, 2014 @20:00 UTC. If there ar

[gentoo-dev] Re: About current ppc/ppc64 status

2014-08-01 Thread Duncan
Raúl Porcel posted on Fri, 01 Aug 2014 10:52:21 +0200 as excerpted: > But almost all arches except amd64/x86/arm are getting less and less > popular: > > alpha: no new hardware in more than 8+ years > hppa: being phased out IIRC, and no new workstations > (ie, graphics/sound) in 5+ years > ia64:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About current ppc/ppc64 status

2014-08-01 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 08/01/2014 04:52, Raúl Porcel wrote: > On 07/26/14 19:33, Michael Palimaka wrote: >> On 07/27/2014 03:19 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >>> If an arch team isn't going to honor a stable request, shouldn't they >>> remove themselves from it and say so? >>> >>> Also, if an arch team does that, does that

[gentoo-dev] Re: Avoiding rebuilds

2014-08-01 Thread Steven J. Long
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 05:49:07AM +, Martin Vaeth wrote: > hasufell wrote: > > Ulrich Mueller: > >> > >> I wonder if it wouldn't be saner to leave our revision syntax > >> untouched. > > As already mentioned, -r1.1 is only one of several possible ways > how to achieve the same aim; I am not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About current ppc/ppc64 status

2014-08-01 Thread Raúl Porcel
On 07/26/14 19:33, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 07/27/2014 03:19 AM, William Hubbs wrote: >> If an arch team isn't going to honor a stable request, shouldn't they >> remove themselves from it and say so? >> >> Also, if an arch team does that, does that mean we don't have to file >> stable requests

[gentoo-dev] Re: package.mask vs ~arch

2014-08-01 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:01:53PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:04:54AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > A package that hasn't been tested AT ALL doesn't belong in ~arch. > > Suppose the maintainer is unable to test some aspect of the package, > > or any aspect of the pack

[gentoo-dev] Re: crossdev and multilib interference

2014-08-01 Thread Steven J. Long
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 19/06/14 05:20 PM, Steven J. Long wrote: > > Well I've spent far too long at crossdev code, only to see this and > > realise you can simply hard-mask: > > cross-i686-pc-linux-gnu/{binutils,gcc,glibc,pkg-config} in the > > amd64 multilib profile, u