Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Problems and limitations of the current version dependency specs

2016-11-01 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:16:18 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:29:09 + > Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > > > > 4. What are the common tasks that you find unnecessarily complex / > > > lengthy with the current version specifications? > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 4

2016-11-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 01/11/16 05:31 PM, Ilya Tumaykin wrote: > On Tuesday 01 November 2016 16:13:34 William Hubbs wrote: >> Title: Inportant fstab and localmount update > > 'iNportant' > NIT: There is also double-whitespace on paragraph 2, line 2: "symbolic links will" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 4

2016-11-01 Thread Ilya Tumaykin
On Tuesday 01 November 2016 16:13:34 William Hubbs wrote: > Title: Inportant fstab and localmount update 'iNportant' -- Best regards. Ilya Tumaykin. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 4

2016-11-01 Thread William Hubbs
Title: Inportant fstab and localmount update Author: William Hubbs Author: Ian Stakenvicius Display-If-Installed: sys-apps/openrc Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2016-11-04 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Recent updates to service scripts in OpenRC and

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 3

2016-11-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 16:10:19 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 01/11/16 04:03 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:13:28 -0500 > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > >> If "/dev/disk/by-*" source paths are used for mount points in > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Problems and limitations of the current version dependency specs

2016-11-01 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Michał, > > Therefore, I would like to ask the following questions: > > 1. How often do you find '~' useful? Do you think there should be > additional operators that ignore revision part? > Very useful for virtuals (especially perl virtuals

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 3

2016-11-01 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
On 01/11/16 04:03 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:13:28 -0500 > William Hubbs wrote: > >> If "/dev/disk/by-*" source paths are used for mount points in > > s/source/device/. Source sounds weird to me. device path works, i used 'source' as in the mount

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 3

2016-11-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 14:13:28 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > If "/dev/disk/by-*" source paths are used for mount points in s/source/device/. Source sounds weird to me. > fstab, it is possible that those symbolic links will not exist when > localmount starts and attempts to

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 3

2016-11-01 Thread William Hubbs
Here's round 3. Unfortunately there isn't another way to limit the audiance further. People can have openrc and systemd installed at the same time, and they can have openrc installed on *bsd. William Title: Inportant fstab and localmount update Author: William Hubbs

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:44 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 02:14:43PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:53 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 01:30:56PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> On Tue,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Ban dolib and libopts in EAPI 7

2016-11-01 Thread Sergey Popov
13.10.2016 16:53, Ulrich Mueller пишет: > Hi all, > > I suggest that we ban the dolib and libopts commands in EAPI 7. > > Rationale: > 1. There are about 60 instances of dolib in the tree. At least one >third of them appears to be wrong (e.g., should be replaced by >dolib.so for correct

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 02:14:43PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:53 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 01:30:56PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > On Tue,

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:53 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 01:30:56PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Nov 01, 2016 at 01:30:56PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > >> > >> here is the new version of this news item. > >> > > > > Shouldn't this be

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote: >> >> here is the new version of this news item. >> > > Shouldn't this be conditional based on openrc being installed? I > don't think other rc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-specific breakage when building dev-lisp/gcl

2016-11-01 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 11/01/2016 04:55 PM, gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > Any hints please? This discussion should take place on https://bugs.gentoo.org -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3 signature.asc

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > here is the new version of this news item. > Shouldn't this be conditional based on openrc being installed? I don't think other rc implementations are impacted. -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > here is the new version of this news item. > > Thanks, > > William > > The upstream preferred solution is to convert fstab from using > "/dev/disk/by-*" to the LABEL=, UUID=, or PARTUUID= syntax. Who is

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread Matthias Maier
On Tue, Nov 1, 2016, at 11:52 CDT, William Hubbs wrote: > requirement for udev to "settle" before it's startup completes. The ^~~~ its Best, Matthias signature.asc Description: PGP

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: important fstab and localmount update, round 2

2016-11-01 Thread William Hubbs
All, here is the new version of this news item. Thanks, William Title: Inportant fstab and localmount update Author: William Hubbs Author: Ian Stakenvicius Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2016-11-04 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Recent updates to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-specific breakage when building dev-lisp/gcl

2016-11-01 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/01/2016 08:55 AM, gro...@gentoo.org wrote: > The problem is somehow related to the sandbox. As I said, everything was > OK on February 17; I suppose sandbox has changed between this date and > May 4. > > FEATURES=-sandbox emerge gcl > > does not solve the problem. > > Any hints please?

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo-specific breakage when building dev-lisp/gcl

2016-11-01 Thread grozin
Hello *, For quite some time I cannot build gcl-2.6.12 on my ~amd64 box. The last successful build was on February 17 this year, the first failure on May 4. Nothing changed in gcl-2.6.12.ebuild. Now raw_gcl segfaults when called from make. When I go to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Problems and limitations of the current version dependency specs

2016-11-01 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 09:29:09 + Sergei Trofimovich wrote: > > 4. What are the common tasks that you find unnecessarily complex / > > lengthy with the current version specifications? > > Problem 1: > > Sometimes upstream decides that one of their dependencies > is broken on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Problems and limitations of the current version dependency specs

2016-11-01 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/31/2016 08:31 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > 4. What are the common tasks that you find unnecessarily complex / > lengthy with the current version specifications? Slotted version ranges, for example: berkdb? ( || ( sys-libs/db:5.3 sys-libs/db:5.1

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Problems and limitations of the current version dependency specs

2016-11-01 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Tue, 1 Nov 2016 01:31:55 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: Haskell package ecosystem (hackage) encourages upper version bounds and strict version bounds on dependencies: http://pvp.haskell.org/ Most of dependencies look like: >=foo-1.3 =bar-2.1 =baz-2.1 =baz-2.9 Therefore, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: turning off grub2 multislot use flag

2016-11-01 Thread Consus
On 12:39 Sun 07 Aug, William Hubbs wrote: > All, > > I have spoken with floppym about this (he is the primary maintainer of > grub2), and he told me to go for it if I want to take on the project, so > I want some thoughts. > > Currently, grub2 defaults, with the multislot use flag on, to