Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Matthew Thode
On 17-12-21 08:34:31, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu czw, 21.12.2017 o godzinie 05∶29 +, użytkownik Duncan > napisał: > > Michał Górny posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:40:27 +0100 as excerpted: > > > > In all this I don't see an answer to one question: > > > > Will this eventually be the only supp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu czw, 21.12.2017 o godzinie 05∶29 +, użytkownik Duncan napisał: > Michał Górny posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:40:27 +0100 as excerpted: > > > A new set of 17.1 amd64 profiles has been added to the Gentoo > > repository. Those profiles switch to a more standard 'no SYMLINK_LIB' > > multili

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Duncan
Michał Górny posted on Wed, 20 Dec 2017 14:40:27 +0100 as excerpted: > A new set of 17.1 amd64 profiles has been added to the Gentoo > repository. Those profiles switch to a more standard 'no SYMLINK_LIB' > multilib layout, > and require explicit migration as described below. They are considered >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Jason Zaman
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 06:29:57PM +0100, Hans de Graaff wrote: > On Wed, 2017-12-20 at 18:02 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > > >   sys-process/vixie-cron > > My understanding is that vixie-cron is no longer maintained and sys- > process/cronie is the drop-in replacement that is now also suggested

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread R0b0t1
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > According to Merriam-Webster: > > self-evident > adjective | self-ev·i·dent | ˌself-ˈe-və-dənt , -ˌdent > evident without proof or reasoning > The version I used is taken from http://dd.pangyre.org/s/self-evident.html. > You have been

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread R0b0t1
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Nils Freydank wrote: > There is a specific RFC about splitting the mailing list because of a > problematic style of conversation. > Well, yes - but what is problematic? Certain parties keep vaguely alluding to past actions, which is what I am inquiring about. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 07:12:45PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/20/2017 06:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > There already is an overlay for dying packages, it is called graveyard, > > but no one is putting things there. > > > > This email conflates old dying packages with new version

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/20/2017 06:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > There already is an overlay for dying packages, it is called graveyard, > but no one is putting things there. > > This email conflates old dying packages with new versions, which are a > completely separate issue. > Lack of new versions *is* dyin

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 06:33:21PM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/20/2017 02:41 PM, Virgil Dupras wrote: > > > > Maybe some kind of official overlay for packages needing love? We > > could send outdated packages there to die or to be born again if the > > right person picks it up. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/20/2017 02:41 PM, Virgil Dupras wrote: > > Maybe some kind of official overlay for packages needing love? We > could send outdated packages there to die or to be born again if the > right person picks it up. > > The overlay could have more relaxed rules (not malicious and looking > good? no

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2017, 17:48:54 CET schrieb kuzetsa: > On 12/16/2017 10:14 AM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 23:41:45 CET schrieb kuzetsa: > >> On 12/05/2017 05:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > >>> 5. Reasons for warnings and bans > >>> --

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Ilya Tumaykin
qlist -Iv $(portageq --repo gentoo --orphaned) On Wednesday, 20 December 2017 23:54:27 MSK Christopher Head wrote: > On December 20, 2017 8:49:03 AM PST, "Michał Górny" wrote: > >Ad. 1. We currently have over 1650 m-n packages [1] and the list keeps > >growing. The advantage of this type is that

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Christopher Head
On December 20, 2017 8:49:03 AM PST, "Michał Górny" wrote: >Ad. 1. We currently have over 1650 m-n packages [1] and the list keeps >growing. The advantage of this type is that we have an explicit list >and everyone clearly sees that the packages need a new maintainer. We >also have some dedicated

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Virgil Dupras
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:49:03 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > So does anyone have any ideas on what we could realistically do right > now to improve things? Maybe some kind of official overlay for packages needing love? We could send outdated packages there to die or to be born again if the right pe

[gentoo-dev] Package up for grab

2017-12-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi everyone, I was maintaining the following package net-p2p/tribler but I just dropped it to maintainer-needed. Someone asked me for it, but it needs work on bumping and its not that interesting/important to me. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened] E-Mail: bluen.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 12/20/17 12:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 12/20/17 12:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> Hello, everyone. >> >> Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following >> projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: >> >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Cro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Wed, 2017-12-20 at 18:02 +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > >   sys-process/vixie-cron My understanding is that vixie-cron is no longer maintained and sys- process/cronie is the drop-in replacement that is now also suggested as the default cron in the handbook. https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:02:22 +0100 Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following > projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:M68k > > sys-apps/zorroutils [m] Aww,

Re: [gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread nado
Hi, December 20, 2017 5:46 PM, "Michał Górny" wrote: > E. Some of the unmaintained packages are dependencies of other > maintained packages in Gentoo. However, developers usually don't want > to take them, even if their package is the only revdep. > > F. We are usually treecleaning packages as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Wed, 20 Dec 2017 18:02:22 +0100 schrieb Michał Górny : > Hello, everyone. > > Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following > projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Cron > > sys-process/anacron [m] >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 12/20/17 12:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following > projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Cron > > sys-process/anacron [m] > sys-process/at >

[gentoo-dev] Projects up for grabs: cron, m68k

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, everyone. Due to prolonged inactivity of Mike Frysinger (vapier), the following projects have had effectively no members for 6 months already: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Cron sys-process/anacron [m] sys-process/at sys-process/bcron sys-process/cronbase sys-process/cron

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread kuzetsa
On 12/16/2017 10:14 AM, Nils Freydank wrote: > Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 23:41:45 CET schrieb kuzetsa: >> On 12/05/2017 05:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: >>> 5. Reasons for warnings and bans >>> >> --snip-- >> >>> c) spamming, i.e. flooding discussions with lots o

[gentoo-dev] The problem of unmaintained packages in Gentoo

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, everyone. Jalus Bilieyich has submitted the following for the last Council meeting: | Discuss the lack of enough package maintainers to update ebuilds. Many | ebuilds in the Portage tree can be easily marked outdated. Given that the item didn't see any real discussion in the mailing lists

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2017-12-20 Thread Amy Liffey
Hello, The following packages are up for grabs: x11-libs/libast dev-cpp/gmock sys-boot/cromwell-bin sys-boot/cromwell sys-boot/raincoat dev-vcs/pwclient dev-vcs/cvsync app-cdr/extract-xiso app-cdr/xdvdfs-tools www-apache/mod_h2 app-crypt/osslsigncode app-crypt/crackpkcs12 sys-auth/pam_bioapi sys-a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:34:14 -0500 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Alexis Ballier > wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:00:16 -0500 > > "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > > > >> However, what alternative do we have to throwing the patches up in > >> a devspace? > > > > mirror:

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
Hi, mysql project is using https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/mysql-extras.git/ (i.e. an own repository) to track patches. What I like about it: 1) We track patches/changes due to using a VCS. 2) We can fetch directly from gitweb.gentoo.org, i.e. no need to adjust SRC_URI when changing a patch. Jus

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review (v2)

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
Here's an update using Display-If-Profile header instead. The item applies to users of 13.0 and 17.0 profiles, except for x32 profiles that have been using the correct layout already. === Title: Experimental amd64 17.1 profiles up for testing Author: Michał Górny Posted: 2017-12-xx Revision: 1 Ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 4:42 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:00:16 -0500 > "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > >> However, what alternative do we have to throwing the patches up in a >> devspace? > > mirror://gentoo, aka /space/distfiles-local/ > That isn't a great option. This has b

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review

2017-12-20 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu śro, 20.12.2017 o godzinie 08∶28 -0500, użytkownik Brian Evans napisał: > On 12/18/2017 1:51 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hello, everyone. > > > > The first news item I'd like to submit for 17.1 profiles follows. > > The item is aimed at ~amd64 users who'd like to test the new profiles. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] First (experimental) 17.1 profiles news item for review

2017-12-20 Thread Brian Evans
On 12/18/2017 1:51 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, everyone. > > The first news item I'd like to submit for 17.1 profiles follows. > The item is aimed at ~amd64 users who'd like to test the new profiles. > When they become stable, a separate news item for all our users will be > published. > I'

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:00:16 -0500 "Aaron W. Swenson" wrote: > On 2017-12-17 14:21, Michał Górny wrote: > > Total size of 'files' subdirectory of a package should not be > > larger than 32 KiB. If the package needs more auxiliary files, they > > should be put into SRC_URI e.g. via tarballs. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Dienstag, 5. Dezember 2017, 23:41:45 CET schrieb kuzetsa: > On 12/05/2017 05:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > 5. Reasons for warnings and bans > > > > --snip-- > > > c) spamming, i.e. flooding discussions with lots of messages in a row > > d) constant postings o

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017, 17:59:59 CET schrieb Anton Molyboha: > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > > 3. Moderation > > - > > The moderation team has to consist of at least two developers. The > > moderators > > have to do join the mod

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moderator ruleset for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org

2017-12-20 Thread Nils Freydank
Am Freitag, 15. Dezember 2017, 23:37:48 CET schrieb R0b0t1: > Hello, > > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Nils Freydank wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > with regards to the current mailing list (ML) split discussion, and one > > specific message deep down there by mgorny asked for someone provi

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] New policy: 'files' directory must not be larger than 32 KiB

2017-12-20 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 20:11:04 -0600 R0b0t1 wrote: > I forgot most files were mirrored. So the infrastructure that is the > answer to my question is already in place. Consequently, I don't think > there's any reason to argue against this, unless it ultimately ends up > being a ton of work to packag