Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-26 Thread kuzetsa
On 03/26/2018 09:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:19 PM, kuzetsa wrote: >> On 03/20/2018 08:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> >>> Actually, I think it is more of a technical constraint. It is >>> basically impossible to blacklist somebody on a mailing list, since >>> all the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:19 PM, kuzetsa wrote: > On 03/20/2018 08:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> Actually, I think it is more of a technical constraint. It is >> basically impossible to blacklist somebody on a mailing list, since >> all they need to do is roll up a new email address. >> >> I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-26 Thread kuzetsa
On 03/20/2018 08:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Benda Xu wrote: >> William Hubbs writes: >> >>> I do feel that this decision reflects badly on us as a community and >>> should be reversed immediately. The proper way to deal with people who >>> have bad behavior is t

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] eclass: freedict: require EAPI=6

2018-03-26 Thread Marty E. Plummer
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:58:00PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu pon, 26.03.2018 o godzinie 16∶33 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. > Plummer napisał: > > As a pretty simple eclass, which only inherited multilib in > > order to get $(get_libdir) and eutils for who knows why, and > > all its consumer

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] eclass: freedict: require EAPI=6

2018-03-26 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu pon, 26.03.2018 o godzinie 16∶33 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. Plummer napisał: > As a pretty simple eclass, which only inherited multilib in > order to get $(get_libdir) and eutils for who knows why, and > all its consumers bumped to EAPI=6, it makes sense to require > EAPI 6 for this eclass >

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH] eclass: freedict: require EAPI=6

2018-03-26 Thread Marty E. Plummer
As a pretty simple eclass, which only inherited multilib in order to get $(get_libdir) and eutils for who knows why, and all its consumers bumped to EAPI=6, it makes sense to require EAPI 6 for this eclass Package-Manager: Portage-2.3.24, Repoman-2.3.6 --- eclass/freedict.eclass | 7 +-- 1 fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: net-dns/hesiod, games-arcade/monkey-bubble, app-shells/scsh-install-lib, dev-db/mysql-udf-infusion...

2018-03-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> # Pacho Ramos (18 Mar 2018) >> # Unresolved security issues (#606652), tests fail (#628622, #337249). >> # Removal in a month. >> net-dns/hesiod >> >> # Pacho Ramos (18 Mar 2018)

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to provide a recent TeXLive for Gentoo for our users?

2018-03-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:07:07 +0200 Jonas Stein wrote: > > [...] > >> This is not a very nice solution, but it works so far. One > >> difficulty is, that there is no 1:1 relation between the texlive > >> distribution and dev-texlive/* at the moment. > > There is a 1:1 relation. > > A full i

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Portage fork: sys-apps/portage-mgorny

2018-03-26 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/26/2018 09:48 AM, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: > On 2018-03-23 18:44, Patrick McLean wrote: >> At my (and zmedico's) employer we use Gentoo heavily (all of our servers >> run it), and have a few large internal overlays and hundreds of internal >> profiles. There are packages in upstream Gentoo t

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to provide a recent TeXLive for Gentoo for our users?

2018-03-26 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi Alexis, > The real reason is that we need to go through ~arch testing, fixing rev > deps that might need update to their .tex files because the underlying > packages they use has changed, adapt the deps for some potential > changes, and then a stablereq round. I agree. This makes the situatio

Re: [gentoo-dev] New category: app-metrics

2018-03-26 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2018-03-22 09:57, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > On the face of it, I wouldn't drop the "prometheus-" prefix if > app-metrics is to be the home to other tools. Otherwise, other tools > like graphite or collectd might want very similar names for the same > tools out  there. I second this. Please keep

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Portage fork: sys-apps/portage-mgorny

2018-03-26 Thread Thomas Deutschmann
On 2018-03-23 18:44, Patrick McLean wrote: > At my (and zmedico's) employer we use Gentoo heavily (all of our servers > run it), and have a few large internal overlays and hundreds of internal > profiles. There are packages in upstream Gentoo that we maintain an > internal fork of, and it would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proper dependencies for TeX related ebuilds

2018-03-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:40:12 +0200 Jonas Stein wrote: > Hi, > > I just read > https://bugs.gentoo.org/625908#c5 > and saw that we do not have a good documentation on this and many > packages in the tree ship with strange tex dependencies. > > I started a documentation on our wiki > https://wik

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to provide a recent TeXLive for Gentoo for our users?

2018-03-26 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 11:57:49 +0200 Jonas Stein wrote: > An installation via tlmgr provides many updates per day, but > our distributed TeXLive is unfortunately always behind. > Typically TeXLive on gentoo is 6-12 months behind upstream, because we > have to bump a lot manually. That is not the re

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/5] use.desc: Introduce 'luajit' as a global flag

2018-03-26 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 26 mars 2018 à 13:55 +0200, Michał Górny a écrit : > Dnia 26 marca 2018 10:47:04 CEST, Gilles Dartiguelongue rg> napisał(a): > > Le lundi 26 février 2018 à 23:24 +0100, Michał Górny a écrit : > > > 'luajit' is used consistently in 25+ packages. Make it a global > > > flag. > > > > Not th

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/5] use.desc: Introduce 'luajit' as a global flag

2018-03-26 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 26 marca 2018 10:47:04 CEST, Gilles Dartiguelongue napisał(a): >Le lundi 26 février 2018 à 23:24 +0100, Michał Górny a écrit : >> 'luajit' is used consistently in 25+ packages. Make it a global flag. > >Not that I have a strong opinion about it, but wouldn't it be better to >have USE="lua ji

[gentoo-dev] How to provide a recent TeXLive for Gentoo for our users?

2018-03-26 Thread Jonas Stein
Dear all, there was a question on the tex@gentoo ml from a user, who needs a very recent TeXLive in order to be compatible with other setups. This is also very important, for users of the more recent programs like lualatex. Many packages do not work properly in the unfixed old version. An install

[gentoo-dev] Proper dependencies for TeX related ebuilds

2018-03-26 Thread Jonas Stein
Hi, I just read https://bugs.gentoo.org/625908#c5 and saw that we do not have a good documentation on this and many packages in the tree ship with strange tex dependencies. I started a documentation on our wiki https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Notes_on_TeX_related_ebuilds Please help to complete it

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Repoman to warn about suspicious =-dependencies

2018-03-26 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > I think this cause the trouble of specifying '-r0' rather rarely, and it > will decrease the number of mistakes, also effectively making Gentoo > development easier. It is somewhat inspired by the handling of slot > operators (where repoman e

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Repoman to warn about suspicious =-dependencies

2018-03-26 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le dimanche 04 mars 2018 à 12:37 +0100, Michał Górny a écrit : > Hi, everyone. > > I have proposed a new check for repoman [1] (with a patch at [2]) > that > would warn developers about suspicious '=' deps. > > By suspicious, I mean dependencies '=foo-1.2.3' which are sometimes > mistakenly used

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/5] use.desc: Introduce 'luajit' as a global flag

2018-03-26 Thread Gilles Dartiguelongue
Le lundi 26 février 2018 à 23:24 +0100, Michał Górny a écrit : > 'luajit' is used consistently in 25+ packages. Make it a global flag. Not that I have a strong opinion about it, but wouldn't it be better to have USE="lua jit" like libpeas does ? Use flags aren't supposed to match library names but

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Portage fork: sys-apps/portage-mgorny

2018-03-26 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/25/2018 02:02 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:43:41 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> But if the majority demographic is as you describe, then they shouldn't >> be using anything having dependencies that require package.unmask or ** >> keywords changes. > > Again, they *dont*