[gentoo-dev] distfiles whitelisting

2005-05-08 Thread Brian Harring
Just a friendly reminder, if you are placing files on the distfiles mirrors that are not claimed by an ebuild in the tree, you need to whitelist the files- just add the files to /space/distfiles-whitelist-current on dev.gentoo.org , and the files will be left alone for 6 months, or until they'r

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager OT

2005-05-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 04:51:36PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | If a dev doesn't have adequate knowledge for a particular package he > | shouldn't be fscking with it in the first place. So there said package > | can sit, having only the ability to install to / just like it always > | has unt

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, May 07, 2005 at 02:39:20AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > 'tweak' is too mild a term... As far as I can tell I'm the only person > who's bothered to actually even try to look at this from an ebuild > perspective Surprisingly, not quite true (was fun stating it I'm sure though). > -- not

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-06 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 08:12:07AM -0500, Brian Jackson wrote: > Okay, I'll stop shooting. But I suggest that this is a particular GLEP > where a reference implementation (outside of the main portage tree) > would aid people in studying the GLEP. The GLEP workflow section allows > for this. I'd say

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-06 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 02:28:49PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > The problem isn't the packages. The problem is the ebuilds. Agreed, although seemed to take a bit of dancing to get done to the fact that yes, changing the prefix has a good chance of working. >From there, we're back to the old tw

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy on RESTRICT=[no]mirror and use of mirror://foo/

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 10:53:03PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:37:07AM +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: > > I know only one mirror network who could worth the hassle: cpan. > > Perl has a nice geographically distributed network of mirrors. Too bad > > portage can't automati

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 03:01:05PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2005 03:48:49 -0500 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | > Ok, here's the main issue. Simply changing prefix isn't enough to > | > automatically make every package in the t

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 03:48:49AM -0500, Brian Harring wrote: > default being use or use/local or whatever the hell Wow. no more posting at 3:50 am... meant usr for above, pardon. ~brian -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-05 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 03:12:20PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 2 May 2005 19:02:29 -0500 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | State said problem for the general community. Guessing you're > | referencing the issue/request that being able to manage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: emerge-webrsync bandwidth improvement

2005-05-04 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 02:27:02PM +0200, sf wrote: > Is there any way to skip syncing if no patches are found? emerge sync > uses a timestamp for that purpose, doesn't it? Could, yes. Few more pressing things re: emerge-delta-webrsync, namely (order of what I'm hacking on now) A) bzip2 v1.03 i

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 09:11:03PM -0500, Brian Jackson wrote: > Well, I've got a bug open to have a different variable like ROOT that > portage would read config files from. Maybe you could jump on that > bandwagon, and see if you can make things work that way. Assuming you're referencing CONFIG_

Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager

2005-05-02 Thread Brian Harring
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 03:13:56PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 02 May 2005 14:22:15 +0200 Michael Haubenwallner > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Hi ebuild devs, > | > | Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal > | "act as a secondary package manager" ... > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage ebuild cruft

2005-04-28 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 06:40:23PM +0200, Heinrich Wendel wrote: > Hi, > > Portage is slow? How to make it faster? By removing unused ebuilds! Define "faster". All this would do is cut down on a couple of stats per pkg; the # of ebuilds per pkg isn't a huge issue, the scanning of vdb and Config

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT - Finding Linux dev resources

2005-04-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 04:20:57PM -0600, Ryan wrote: > Oh yea, and expect to get LOTS of wise cracks such as this below. Just > ignore those. Avoiding getting into whether or not greg is right, it's way OT and doesn't belong on this ml. Off the wall of the forums would be a better location to

Re: [gentoo-dev] why do different ebuilds have the same version number?

2005-04-27 Thread Brian Harring
Slightly shorter variant... python -c $' import portage, time from itertools import chain, imap target=long(time.strftime("%s",time.gmtime())) - 24*60*60 pdb=portage.portdb for cpv in chain(*imap(pdb.cp_list, pdb.cp_all())): flagged=False try:mtime, eclasses = pdb.aux_get(cpv,[

Re: [gentoo-dev] why do different ebuilds have the same version number?

2005-04-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:02:27PM +0200, Francesco Riosa wrote: > Brian Harring wrote: > > >>>[snip] > >>> > >>> > >>Why you could not use ctime/mtime ? Isn't possible to make a check like > >>you do now but only on a filter

Re: [gentoo-dev] why do different ebuilds have the same version number?

2005-04-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 09:17:46PM +0200, Francesco Riosa wrote: > marduk wrote: > > >On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:09:38 -0700, "Imran Sher Rafique" > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > >>I hope this doesn't come across as too much of a rant. > >> > >>Summary > >>--- > >>Is it accepted practice

Re: [gentoo-dev] why do different ebuilds have the same version number?

2005-04-27 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Apr 27, 2005 at 10:53:04AM -0700, marduk wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 06:09:38 -0700, "Imran Sher Rafique" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > I hope this doesn't come across as too much of a rant. > > > > Summary > > --- > > Is it accepted practice to allow for changes in an ebuild wit

[gentoo-dev] mirror stats update (important)

2005-04-26 Thread Brian Harring
Hola all. The beast mirror stats xml page now lives at http://dev.gentoo.org/distfile-mirroring/failure.xml rather then my devspace. The page will get overhauled to be a bit better looking, and proper xml whenever I get the chance. Aside from that, devs- if you have a files that you need kept o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Per-category and per-package eclasses

2005-04-25 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:49:28AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:47:03 +0100 > Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 15:27:12 +0300 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > | Dan Meltzer wrote: > > | > I can see the use for a category one

Re: [gentoo-dev] upcoming mirror cleansing

2005-04-24 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 04:55:14PM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 08:49:59AM -0500, Brian Harring wrote: > > Hola all. > [snip] > > under 'Deletions for Sunday May 01 2005' > unknown: > portage-2.0.51.20.tar.bz2 sandbox-1.2.tar

Re: [gentoo-dev] upcoming mirror cleansing

2005-04-23 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 12:18:30PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Brian Harring wrote: > > A quicky report of flies that'll be ixnayed is available at > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~ferringb/failure.xml > > Thanks for making that page! I just searched it and found two pac

Re: [gentoo-dev] upcoming mirror cleansing

2005-04-23 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Apr 23, 2005 at 05:54:40PM +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: > Brian Harring wrote: > > >Why this matters- around 10,000 files out of 28,600 files will be > >removed from the mirrors network. Either > > > >A) no ebuild claims that distfile. it's orphaned o

[gentoo-dev] upcoming mirror cleansing

2005-04-23 Thread Brian Harring
Hola all. So mirror-dist is ready to go, infra side of it being set for a final testing run then switching it live if things go fine after next weekend. Why this matters- around 10,000 files out of 28,600 files will be removed from the mirrors network. Either A) no ebuild claims that distfil

[gentoo-dev] emerge-webrsync bandwidth improvement

2005-04-22 Thread Brian Harring
Hola all. Just sending out a notice for those who have low bandwidth connections- app-portage/emerge-delta-webrsync was added to the tree earlier this week, and I'd like to get some user feedback on it. Short version of it: it pulls down patches instead of pulling a full snapshot. Figure ~100

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo as a development platform

2005-04-16 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 06:39:41PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Daniel Drake wrote: > > - I'm manually configuring a package that I want installed in > > ebuild-fashion. > > I know when an ebuild runs econf it passes many configure parameters to > > achieve this (installation into /var/tmp, etc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo as a development platform

2005-04-16 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 12:36:19AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > Quite often, I use Gentoo's from-source nature to my advantage when developing > or testing software packages. > > Gentoo is fairly well oriented for this kind of environment, but it's not > brilliant. As an example, foo-3.2.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo as a development platform

2005-04-16 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 12:36:19AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > Quite often, I use Gentoo's from-source nature to my advantage when developing > or testing software packages. > > Gentoo is fairly well oriented for this kind of environment, but it's not > brilliant. As an example, foo-3.2.

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:53:41PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Friday 15 April 2005 15:14, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > If this actually scared anybody (that received it), my apologies. I was > > confused about bugs. Fixing the flat profiles will be problem either. The > > bug is that 2.0.50 will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Thanks for your feedback

2005-04-08 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 07:28:31PM +0200, Adrian Lambeck wrote: > Everybody thanks for the feedback to my GLEP(35). > The discussion about it started on 2005/03/13. > > What I figured out so far is that some proposed changes are already covered > in > repoman.That is even better because some of

[gentoo-dev] portage and operating from a non / prefix; was: perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 02:24:44PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 15:17:38 +0200 Stefan Sperling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | So, there's a casual macosx user who does not yet dare to throw > | away his os in favour of gentoo/ppc. Then he finds out that there > | is a portag

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:51:44PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 07:46:43 -0500 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Frankly, it nukes the usefulness of gentoo macos/osx if portage just > | stomps whatever the hell it wants. > | This is why co

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 08:36:56AM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > We have no control over what Apple will do for a 10.3 -> 10.4 upgrade > which is why IMHO the smokes and mirrors with paths is the best option. > You can't go replacing primary OSX files with GNU ones and expect > everything to be f

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:02:26PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 06:04:03 -0500 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | You know apple ain't going to support the broken mess that results, > | and nor will we most likely. That is wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl, sed and non-gsed

2005-04-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 11:22:49AM +0100, Stroller wrote: > On Apr 7, 2005, at 7:33 am, Luca Barbato wrote: > >Brian Harring wrote: > >>Problem with the preference you have above is you're considering > >>portage as the primary pkg manager/authority for that s

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