On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> When in the last 16 years was this 2 year period of running stable?
> The general state of QA has varied quite a bit over that time.
>
I would say 3 or 4 years ago, roughly.
> running unstable systemd has been
Running unstable doesn't m
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Sergei Trofimovich
wrote:
> TL;DR;TL;DR:
>
[...]
Here's a data point you may, or may not, find relevant. in 16 years of
using Gentoo exclusively, the only one time I used stable on one machine
for about 2 years it ended up being much more of a pain than unstable.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Matthias Maier wrote:
> And I see absolutely no harm in explicitly annotating the actual
> copyright in gentoo ebuilds.
It seems like a simple and practical enough way to go. However, one of
the arguments going for assigning copyright to the Gentoo foundation
at t
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>
> Well, maybe it's because you can talk to Python team, discuss and not
> get ignored by them.
We've already established the same is true for the games team. I'm a living
example of it and I can't imagine I'm the only one.
> Unlike games
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> I was stating the apparent state of facts. If people are told they're
> supposed to go with games team, use their eclass, follow their
> policies, that's how it looks to people.
That's an entirely different point from the one I was making.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 08:32:53 -0700
> Denis Dupeyron wrote:
> > Not true. I've been maintaining games for a decade and have never been
> on
> > the team.
>
> Quoting the previous documentation of games.ec
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> developers who did what they cared about and ignored everything and
> everyone else.
>
I don't know if I'm an exception to the rule, but I've always had fruitful
interactions with the games team. I never felt they ignored me.
> games team
Google Summer of Code 2016 is starting.
If you are a student please be patient. Your time will come soon, at which
point we'll be able to answer all your questions. In this initial phase the
audience is project mentors. Note that you do not need to be a Gentoo
developer to be a mentor.
While we a
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> AFAIK, gentoo policy is that live ebuilds should always be masked so as
> never to be automatically pulled in without a deliberate unmasking of the
> live ebuild, but whether that's masked due to lack of keywords (ebuild),
> or
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Alex Xu wrote:
> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/media-libs/x265/x265-.ebuild?revision=1.9&view=markup#l9
Thanks, Alex. This makes more sense now.
Denis.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> x265-1.2.ebuild:KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~arm ~x86"
> x265-1.3.ebuild:KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~x86"
> x265-.ebuild:KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~x86"
>
> As in... You forgot to add ~arm to -.ebuild
Wait, what? Live ebuilds are keyworded now?
De
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> So, RESTRICT="mirror" would turn into
> RESTRICT="officially-dont-mirror-but-actually-do-just-in-case-distfiles-are-dropped-upstream-but-after-we-still-cant-officially-mirror-them-due-to-license-and-copyright-infringement-anyway"
> ?
>
>
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Alexander Berntsen
wrote:
> Ulrich is right. Abandonware just means orphaned works -- i.e. the
> copyright holder hasn't sued anyone yet. Gentoo should not have
> anything to do with this.
I agree with you and Ulrich. That was a very poor choice of word from
my p
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:10 PM, hasufell wrote:
> People often reply aggressively to unrequested reviews
People often replay aggressively when they feel aggressed. Food for thought?
Denis.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 12:11 PM, hasufell wrote:
> a) I'm not sure if I want to be in a team where vapier is lead.
The only position you don't want vapier in is behind you. He humps.
Denis.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> Last rites cancelled; found a version bump'ed distfile via icculus, so
> this one can live a little longer.
I have once asked Robin to archive the distfiles for a commercial
package which has RESTRICT=mirror. My reasoning at the time was t
Please do not take this personally.
I honestly wonder what all the fuss is about. There are a few games
I've helped with over the years and I've never had any trouble at all
having my stuff reviewed and accepted. And I'm a lousy ebuild writer.
Every time I'd suggest a fix, bump, or new package, an
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Hi. TL;DR, this is basically just a THANK YOU to the Gentoo devs
This is totally unacceptable. I demand you take your thank-yous back.
Who do you think you are to thank us like this, even with valid
reasons? Good manners will not be to
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> It is more of a "Do we want QA to delegate this through ComRel or not?".
Actually, no. What it is is a "Subject was thoroughly discussed in the
past, and a decision was made." More than once, in fact. What basis do
you have that would warrant
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> This is nothing new; the qa team has requested that commit rights be
> suspended before. I am just proposing that we actually add the parts of
> the old patch to the glep that spell out when and how this can happen.
>
> Thoughts?
Yes, thoug
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
wrote:
> When someone asks about changing a package which someone else maintains, I
> always suggest reporting a bug about it. Do you think that is generally ok,
> or not the proper way to communicate?
Exactly. Bugzilla is not a commun
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> However, if somebody just commits something to your package, and it
> causes you headaches, and they aren't committing to long-term
> maintenance of the package, then yes, you can revert, etc.
That's where you're wrong. You can revert if nece
I'm hoping this kind of immature and abrasive behaviours will not
propagate (notice the plural here). Yes, when you see a package being
actively maintained by somebody else you should absolutely not touch
it without talking to that person or team first. This is probably the
single most important ru
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote:
> This information, by the way, has been blogged about thousands of
> times.
There is a reason people write documentation. Contrary to blog posts,
documentation is thought out, reviewed, maintained and corrected when
necessary. Blogs are wr
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> Certainly. But it is likely much more interesting work and has
> considerably more impact.
The mentoring period and the review have considerable impact too.
Whether you think one is more important than the other depends on you
thinking short
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
wrote:
> As decided in the last council's meeting, following the recent
> discussions about .la files removal, I'm sending an email to this list
> with a proposal for a plan to address this issue.
1- Why is a proposal sent to gentoo-dev
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> I was more or less told to fuck off if I don't like the tone.
Please watch your language, this is a public mailing-list.
Denis.
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Ryan Hill wrote:
> I'd like to nominate betelgeuse, calchan, and ssuominen (no way you're getting
> out of here that easy).
Thanks a lot for your confidence but I'll pass.
Denis.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:47 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
wrote:
> I think that the packages that currently depend on one icon theme, could
> instead just depend on that virtual. For example, xfce works fine
> without the xfce theme, provided some other theme (like gnome or tango)
> is there.
>
> Is i
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> Hello folks,
Hi Markos. A small detail first. You shouldn't cross post as it makes
things confusing and often results in threads splitting. I have no
problem with that because my email client merges threads but it's not
the case for everyb
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Petteri Räty wrote:
> I mean things like "immature political rantings" are not likely to evoke
> the wanted response and it didn't happen here either.
I know it hurts the eyes a bit, but calling problems by their name is
part of fixing them.
Denis.
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Petteri Räty wrote:
> On 04/11/2010 12:37 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
>> How about:
>>
>>> You have lately been increasingly critical but not constructively
>>
>>> at no point have you offered your contribution
>>
>>> You haven't offered to help
>>
>>> you haven't prop
Ben,
Petteri was proposing an idea. He is being creative and is trying to
help. The only way of knowing if his idea is good is to discuss it and
later try it if people are interested.
You, on the other hand, have lately been increasingly critical (which
is good) but not constructively. You obviou
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Richard Freeman wrote:
> Sure, it is the best way to make big changes
Why then use anything else than the best tool when you can use the
best tool? I didn't say that he should work on a GLEP though, but that
he should "feel free" to do so, which is different. That
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> So all I'm asking is to do your job and make decisions on issues that
> affect all of Gentoo. The issues I brought up are wider than a single
> individual project.
And almost 100% of the time this needs to run through a GLEP, which is
the cas
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> 1. reconsider metadata changepolicies proposal
> ==
[...]
> Can council please decide to honor
> the wish from developers to implement this?
The council will be glad to vote on a GLEP when ready. Fro
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> But while I don't do IRC, from various hints I've seen here, that hasn't
> necessarily been the case there. I'm not making a judgement of whether
> that's good or bad and am only going on various asides I've seen here
> because
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Nathan Zachary
wrote:
> [...] but it
> would be much more enlightening to me to work on creating ebuilds while
> working one-on-one with a mentor.
The whole purpose of the training period between the ebuild quiz and
the end quiz (see [1]) is exactly this. If your
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> Which is all well and good -- the "you wrote some ebuilds so here's
> your commit privs and @gentoo.org" approach to recruitment worked great
> when Gentoo had a few dozen developers.
>
> Today QA is a bit more important, and development is oft
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
wrote:
> I disagree. Resolved LATER is useful to some maintainers that want to
> fix that bug, but don't have time or don't find the issue to be a
> priority at the moment. By marking it LATER they're acknowledging the
> bug exists and nee
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> I see no reason whatsoever to keep it open.
How about this one: preventing users from filing dupes.
> If we
> start doing that, we'll end up with tons of extra bugs on our hands.
What's the big deal? You know you'll be adding/bumping th
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Richard Freeman wrote:
> What I was getting at is trying to identify what aspects of the whole
> recruitment process added the most value and which added the least, and
> adjusting accordingly. I think that assessing attitude and maturity, and
> providing the tools
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:33 AM, Richard Freeman wrote:
> I think the problem is that our recruitment process uses the ability to
> answer complex technical and organizational questions as a way to assess
> maturity. I think that maturity is far more important than technical skill
> in a distro -
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Robert Bradbury
wrote:
> It would appear that the pending (0321) mask of Qt3 will break
> sci-misc/qcad, sci-chemistry/xdrawchem and x11-misc/glunarclock.
I'm not concerned but I feel sympathy for those who use these packages
and many others. The decision from the
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:20 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> I am starting this thread because I don't understand why people are
> using sudo and su together. They are completely separate utilities that
> do the same thing. AFAIK, it should be either "sudo -i" or "su -", but
> not "sudo su -" which
You'll find below an email from solar to Robin about MetaManifest. I'm
adding it to this thread (with solar's authorization) as it seems
pertinent.
Denis.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Ned Ludd wrote:
> Robin,
>
> I recall you wanted me to mail you what we talked about last nite in
> #gentoo-
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> However, great work on this GLEP, you've put forth some good solid
> research into it.
Agreed. I would suggest to use this series of GLEPs as examples of
what to do for future GLEP writers.
> I do hope that we don't intend on settling on SH
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically
> the 3rd Thursday at 1800 UTC / 2000 CET / 1400 EST), same bat channel
> (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) !
Uh... no. The meeting is actually next Monday (January 8th) a
(I'm resending this email as the original apparently did not make it
to the list, although Thomas probably received it)
Hi Thomas,
I'm replying to the original thread below to allow those who have
missed it to have the full context.
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> Let me
2010/1/12 Tomáš Chvátal :
> Dont be joking,
[...]
Mmmh? Take a deep breath, a long walk, a large beer, or whatever
works. Because you need it.
Denis.
Brian,
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Brian Harring wrote:
> The proposal is pretty simple; if code modifies the vdb in any
> fashion, it needs to update the mtime on a file named
> '.modification_time' in the root of the vdb.
>
> For example-
>
> 1) ${PACKAGE_MANAGER} fires ups, builds a pkg.
2010/1/2 Pacho Ramos :
> [...] I failed to see if, finally, an approval
> from the council is needed for merging [multilib] to portage-2.2 or not
The only approval that's required to merge anything to an official
portage branch is Zac's (zmedico). He may have to follow some rules
and wait for some
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote:
> I will make it short, since i already requested it 3 times, did create a
> thread at gentoo-dev ML:
>
> agenda topic: Discussion and approval for following item:
>
> Adding real multilib features from current multilib-portage to currently
It looks like this question is still unanswered:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
>> How are dynamically linked set*id programs going to work?
Denis.
Things seem to be progressing nicely on this front. We have answers to
the questions people had and they look satisfactory to me.
One thing that I think would be valuable is a document that explains
the average dev how to make his/her ebuilds prefix compliant with
links to more details when necess
The next council meeting will be on 7 Dec 2009 at 1900UTC. If you want
us to discuss things please let us know in reply to this email. What
is already known is we'll talk about mtime preservation and prefix.
You can find threads about those at:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_a9e26414f227
A quick note to tell you that I have tried to look for examples of
breakage due to how mtime preservation is currently implemented in
portage. Unfortunately I didn't find anything, maybe because I'm not
knowledgeable enough or because I can't afford to spend any more time
on this. If any of you can
I'm going to try and sum up the situation of the thread started in
[1]. Feel free to correct me or add to the summary in replies.
There seems to be two main ideas. I have removed the authors' name in
quotes below in order to make sure we talk about the ideas and not who
proposed them.
1- All pack
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> This is a formal apology for springing that onto you.
Thanks a lot. Not everybody can do such a thing as a public apology. I
will nonetheless ask the council to vote on the following during next
meeting:
Ask Fabian to change his signatu
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> I'm tempted to say "otherwise it will be hardmasked with kde-base/arts
> by the end of this week", but that might be too intimidating for some.
And completely unreasonable. Some of us have a life.
Denis, wondering why the hurry.
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> I'm seconds away from masking KDE 3.5.10, only fixing gentoo-x86 in a
> shape it's possible.
>
> So sorry everyone for not stopping on every single package and metadata.xml.
>
> Just getting this done.
Quantity isn't a replacement for quali
2009/10/21 Maciej Mrozowski :
> 1. Proposition to split desktop profile to: KDE, Gnome, (and maybe some
> others).
How about making a desktop profile with everything common and being
the parent of Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc... sub-profiles with the specific
stuff?
Denis.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Diego E. Pettenò wrote:
> # The rest are dependencies. The rest
> # of dev-tinyos might be added if it doesn't make sense
> # without these.
Please last rite the whole thing if you feel like it. All my attempts
at proxy-maintaining this have failed.
Denis.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> I would love to see the GLEP on CPE names in metadata.xml discussed,
> http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org/msg35155.html
>
> Any guidance on what I need to do to make it happen is very welcome.
Please read GLEP 1 [1], a
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran
McCreesh wrote:
> I contribute productively and usefully
This should have gone in private but I want it to be public because
you and others apparently do not get it. The fact that you're
contributing or not does not give you or anybody else the right to
beha
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Ciaran
McCreesh wrote:
> Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the issue here.
It's both your behaviors, because they're extremely similar. Except
that you seem to have more time available than slong to express your
defensive personality on our
Hello Robson,
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Robson Roberto Souza
Peixoto wrote:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250853
> On bugzilla has the patch to solve the problem
The people concerned by this already know about the bug and patch,
there is no need to remind us here. They will get t
2009/7/3 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto :
> Yes, that is another thing I was planning to do. The only reason I
> haven't done it yet, is that older manifestos were stored as txt files
> and this year the candidates mostly opted for html/xml files.
> I'll probably just go ahead, "ignore the looks" and c
I'll have things to say about this but I'm still in the woods with
dialup until monday. So either I can get close to a fatter pipe later
today or tomorrow, or I'll do it on monday night from home.
Denis.
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> To appoint as proxy for a council meeting someone who has been booted
> from Gentoo is a clear lapse of judgement, and would in my eyes
> disqualify the involved council member from functioning in that position.
As Petteri noted it's not obvio
Thanks for the reminder, Doug.
Make sure to also check everybody's manifesto here:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/elections/council-200906-nominees.xml
Denis.
> probably belongs in -project.
Not even in -project, it simply wasn't public mailing-list material.
For those who haven't understood yet, the -dev and -project mailing
lists are not for keeping us informed of your random thought of the
day or lamenting about
why-oh-why-is-the-whole-world-so-unfai
[...]
This list is for technical discussions only. Also, public mailing-lists are
not for discussing your personal issues.
Denis.
Hi Jean-Marc,
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jean-Marc Beaune wrote:
> Sorry to be a pain but I just wonder if I filled this bug correctly because
> nothing happens: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244436
>
> I'm not putting any pressure in any way, I just want to know if I did it
> right.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> This is not a debate nor is this thread meant to be a launching point
> for people to promote their own campaign for being on the council and
> I chide you for taking it as such.
I was just trying to contribute to the debate, no more. Since
Hi Doug,
I just got to this thread, so sorry for entering the debate a bit
late. I find your propositions very interesting. In my manifesto [1] I
have proposed something significantly different which simply consists
in spinning the long discussions off the council meetings using more
focused group
2009/6/1 Dawid Węgliński :
> I nominate:
[...]
> Calchan
Thanks Dawid, and also Ferris. I accept. You can find my manifesto at
http://dev.gentoo.org/~calchan/manifesto09/manifesto.html
Denis.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Wernfried Haas wrote:
> I'd like to counter-nominate you
Aww... That must hurt.
Denis.
2009/5/17 Piotr Jaroszyński :
> I have just updated GLEP 55 [1], hopefully making it a bit clearer.
Thanks a lot Piotr.
> Just FYI, my order of preference of solutions is:
>
> 1. EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (obviously)
> 2. EAPI in the filename with one-time extension change
> 3. Easily fetchable EAPI
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
> Except that at the last Council meeting, there were complaints that
> objections *had* been included and discussed in the GLEP, and claims
> that including such material made the GLEP less clear.
As unfortunate as it is, council members ha
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Ciaran McCreesh
wrote:
> Because the way Gentoo works, any objection to a proposal, valid or not,
> whether or not it's already been addressed, has to be answered before a
> proposal gets anywhere. Thus, every time people post nonsense about
> GLEP 55, every post h
Oops, that was supposed to be sent to him directly. Sorry about that.
Denis.
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote:
> Joe !
>
> How are you doing ? I've been meaning to call you but I've been busy
> as hell due to the move. Do you want to have a
Joe !
How are you doing ? I've been meaning to call you but I've been busy
as hell due to the move. Do you want to have a beer or lunch sometime
?
Denis.
2009/5/4 Sérgio Almeida :
> Please drop me a line here or at freenode if you have anything to add
All I have to add is thanks a lot. I wished other SoC students would
also introduce themselves and their project on their list.
Denis.
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i'm feelin pretty good about the latest sandbox-1.3.x (little stiffy even).
"little stiffy" only ? That's OK, you're just getting old. Please come
see me for your free prescription and directions for use of the blue
pills.
> i'd like to ha
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, George Shapovalov wrote:
> Besides, in my opinion, the ability to see "what's there" in at least
> minimally categorized way without having to resort to using some special
> tools or going to some website is worht something. In this vain I was
> proposing going the
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
Looks like you counted the number of files in the files/
subdirectories. Not all of these are patches. Also, you probably
forgot to count seds, as some of us use sed more than patches.
Oh, and like Jeremy was hinting
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the direction
> they wish for actually is. As a user I get the impression that there's some
> kind of evil Cabal.
Most of the Gentoo developer population is
>From the Times Magazine :
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html
It mostly doesn't apply to us as a community (hopefully), but one
paragraph is especially interesting.
<< In 1981, [Jon Postel] formulated what's known as Postel's Law: "Be
conservative in what you do; be liber
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The idea behind posting to the list in advance is twofold -- holding
> council members accountable for:
>
> 1) Knowing the relevant information, and
>
> 2) Participating in the source discussion if they have anything ne
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Ciaran McCreesh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you seriously suggesting that the portage and pkgcore developers
> think that they should be able to release a package manager that claims
> to support an EAPI when it in fact doesn't?
Please stop your incessant and
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There's a lot to be said about being stuck in the "grand design mindset". I
> know many Gentoo, Portage, Exherbo, and Paludis developers are clearly
> coming to that point in their programming careers based on the comment
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Ciaran McCreesh
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:58:40 +0200
> Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Usually in this category you put everybody that disagrees with you,
>> no matter the topic.
>
> And what does that tell you about the average
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Roy Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Before the flames start lets consider the Package Manager Specification
> (PMS) as an example. For this (very black and white) illustration,
> forget the council discussions to date and imagine that representatives
> of all t
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Ferris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think nominations are open. I nominate
> rane
> welp
> zlin
Alright. Then I'll nominate all members of the current council. In
alphabetical order:
amne
betelgeuse
dberkholz
flameeyes
jokey
lu_zero
vapier
Denis.
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On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Alexis Ballier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah or maybe they dont need any unusual fonts; its probably sane to
> set VARTEXFONTS regardless. Probably it'd be worth adding a latex
> eclass that would just contain:
> VARTEXFONTS=${T}/fonts
> and inherit it fro
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Ferris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This only occured since we have no full-time
> > bug-wrangler anymore. Was anyone successful to contact him, yet?
> I am told he should be back sometime soon, like today. Apparently
> someone is in contact with him
It's my pleasure to introduce Markus Duft (mduft) as a new developer.
He will go among us under the name of mduft, and will work in the
Gentoo/Alt project porting Gentoo Prefix to Interix. Yes, people, that
means Gentoo on Win32.
Markus lives with his wife and daughter in Graz, Austria. He seems t
It's my pleasure to introduce Chris Henhawke as a new developer among
us. He is a forums veteran where he goes under the name of bunder, and
has been a moderator there for about 9 months.
Chris lives in Hamilton, Ontario, and is a computer operator who does
maintenance and support. During the inte
It's my pleasure to announce the return of Josh Glover (jmglov) as a
Gentoo developer. Josh will resume his work on CJK and miscellaneous
packages.
Josh works as a Software Development Engineer for Amazon, developing
the mobile phone version of the retail website. He also serves as
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