Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Zac Medico
Peter Volkov wrote: > В Сбт, 07/11/2009 в 12:49 -0800, Zac Medico пишет: >> Peter Volkov wrote: We could introduce "noarch" and "~noarch" KEYWORDS, add "noarch" to the default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for all profiles, and instruct unstable users to add "~noarch" to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 07/11/2009 в 12:49 -0800, Zac Medico пишет: > Peter Volkov wrote: > >> We could introduce "noarch" and "~noarch" KEYWORDS, add "noarch" to > >> the default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for all profiles, and instruct > >> unstable users to add "~noarch" to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. > > > > Looks like this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Peter Volkov
В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 10:05 +0100, Fabian Groffen пишет: > On 07-11-2009 17:54:25 +0300, Peter Volkov wrote: > > > We could introduce "noarch" and "~noarch" KEYWORDS, add "noarch" to > > > the default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for all profiles, and instruct > > > unstable users to add "~noarch" to ACCE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Petteri Räty
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Zac Medico wrote: >> Peter Volkov wrote: >>> Looks like this will not work for all noarch packages. Stardict >>> dictionary itself is noarch, but it RDEPENDS on stardict package which >>> is keyworded only on some archs. So we'll be forced

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 07-11-2009 17:54:25 +0300, Peter Volkov wrote: > > > Sounds like we could benefit from the "noarch" approach known in the RPM > > > world, such that all these packages can also be immediately keyworded > > > and stabilised for all arches. Would greatly simplify things for a > > > great deal of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-07 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Zac Medico wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: >> Looks like this will not work for all noarch packages. Stardict >> dictionary itself is noarch, but it RDEPENDS on stardict package which >> is keyworded only on some archs. So we'll be forced either to keyword >> stardict

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-07 Thread Zac Medico
Peter Volkov wrote: >> We could introduce "noarch" and "~noarch" KEYWORDS, add "noarch" to >> the default ACCEPT_KEYWORDS setting for all profiles, and instruct >> unstable users to add "~noarch" to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. > > Looks like this will not work for all noarch packages. Stardict > dictionary i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-07 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 06/11/2009 в 14:07 -0800, Zac Medico пишет: > Fabian Groffen wrote: > > On 06-11-2009 19:48:16 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: > >>> In the past when smaller arches were not that active we used to mark > >>> Java packages stable after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-07 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Petteri Räty wrote: > In the past when smaller arches were not that active we used to > mark Java packages stable after testing by at least one arch > team. The probability to find arch specific issues in something > like Java is not so high so I think arrangements like t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-06 Thread Hans de Graaff
On Fri, 2009-11-06 at 23:52 +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote: > I just don't see how "noarch" will help the portage tree. I would propose to use it for the 100+ app-xemacs packages, all of which run within the virtual machine that is xemacs. Obviously app-editors/xemacs, the editor itself, will still be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-05 Thread Joseph Jezak
> In the past when smaller arches were not that active we used to mark > Java packages stable after testing by at least one arch team. The > probability to find arch specific issues in something like Java is not > so high so I think arrangements like this are acceptable when the arch > teams have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-05 Thread Petteri Räty
Tobias Klausmann wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 04 Nov 2009, Ryan Hill wrote: >> Is there any interest in allowing certain packages to be stabilized by the >> maintainer without going through the arch teams? I always feel guilty when i >> file stabilization bugs for app-doc pkgs. > > I think for bugs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Joseph Jezak
Ben de Groot wrote: > What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, > even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team > feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that > can't keep up will be demoted to experimental status. > > ppc is also fairly f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > [0] Yes, armin76 helps, but he does so for many arches (and > around of applause for that), but the majority of bugs for alpha > are on my plate. > +++, armin76 does an awesome job of keywording/stabilizing. I really love how he comes dow

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 04 Nov 2009, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Ben de Groot : > > What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, > > even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team > > feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that > > can't keep up will be

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ben de Groot : > What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, > even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team > feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that > can't keep up will be demoted to experimental status. I surely subscribe to th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Ben de Groot
What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that can't keep up will be demoted to experimental status. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lx

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-03 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Markos Chandras : > This is way I keep asking for a complete report of manpower at least > for amd64 and x86 arch teams ( and update the project pages as > well ). We need real numbers so we adjust respectively the number of > stabilization bugs we assign to them. x86

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-02 Thread Markos Chandras
On Monday 02 November 2009 16:17:07 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis : > > Some packages have new releases more than once a month and sometimes > > it's reasonable to not skip stabilization of any version. Given > > version of a package is usually no longer

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis : > Some packages have new releases more than once a month and sometimes > it's reasonable to not skip stabilization of any version. Given > version of a package is usually no longer tested by users after > release of a newer version, so I suggest the follo

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:36:30 +0100 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > Some packages have new releases more than once a month and sometimes it's > reasonable > to not skip stabilization of any version. Given version of a package is > usually no > longer tested by users after release of